[Josy]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

People acting like HMs don't step up when others leave. It's the same thingn every series. It's assumed the series is done and all of a sudden there is a new hate figure and storyline and someone new steps up.

True.

[Marsh.]

BB11 isn't a good enough argument, it was the final couple of days. The final week or so is always quieter, the housemates are exhausted and can see the light at the end of the tunnel and are all ready to go home so aren't interested in starting up anything or having meltdowns.

Name me one series with an explosive final week?

Even BB6 had a quiet last few days.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Me. I Am Salman

the series will go to absolute ****ing **** if they all end up going. fail to see how anyone can't understand that it's not even difference of opinion in this case.

Except it is.

Some people enjoy watching Pauline. Some don't enjoy watching Pauline.

[Locke.]

Most people don't like watching a show that is centered around a few women bitching constantly, which is why they always get evicted early on. I don't know why people are surprised and try to fight it every year when it is inevitable. Dislikable people are going to be evicted, and that is exactly what Toya, Helen, and Pauline are.

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I didn't find the first few days boring in the slightest and I'm a fan of all of them, I actually thought it looked rather promising. There hasn't been an episode this series yet that I haven't looked forward to

Once again people seem to be making the mistake of thinking that the people who like these controversial housemates want to see 24/7 drama, I don't know how many times it has to spelled out that we aren't that thirsty and like civilised, intellectual discussions just as much as anyone else (a big reason why I miss the live feed)

As I said we haven't had a series where something like this has happened for a number of years, but in the past when most or all of the divisive housemates were voted out there have been threads on here appearing saying 'anyone finding this boring now?' or 'dull episode tonight'

There's a reason incidents like Fight Night, Denise/Shannon Twins, Daley/Hazel garnered a lot of attention

Thats always going to happen when the most controversial housemates get evicted.. 99% of the time it'll be a fan of the housemate or housemates that have been evicted making the thread claiming they were the most entertaining housemate and kept the series alive.. a week later there will be new housemates that step up and then become the talking points.

There are 16 people in the house, anyone expecting every single one of them to be centre of attention causing trouble or bringing plenty of entertainment is deluded. When you've got loud gobby evil housemates like Helen and Toya around you 24/7 it'll make you cautious and it'll hold you back from doing things and saying how you really feel about things. Especially when they are being insulting about other housemates to you, you don't want to then do something wrong to be on the end of it. I can bet you if Pauline, Toya and Helen all left right now nearly every single one of them would feel like theres more freedom to express themselves in the house.

[Me. I Am Salman]

BB14 is a perfect example of a series starting out amazingly and going astonishingly downhill after losing its large characters. it descended into the most boring second half of a series I have ever had the misfortune of watching, nothing remotely interesting about showmances and love triangles. the forum was exactly the same last year as it is this year with its vocal hate for Sallie/Dan/Wolfy/Jemima.

It's SO frustrating for us hardcore fans who so desperately want the show to reach the level of quality it had in its good days. BB5/6/7 are only good because of their divides and conflicts and Toya/Pauline/Helen type characters as I've said many many times before. ash/marlon and co will never ever ever ever ever give us that kind of show. come on you surely don't believe there is an iota of interest about them.

[Samm]

Originally Posted by Me. I Am Salman

BB14 is a perfect example of a series starting out amazingly and going astonishingly downhill after losing its large characters. it descended into the most boring second half of a series I have ever had the misfortune of watching, nothing remotely interesting about showmances and love triangles. the forum was exactly the same last year as it is this year with its vocal hate for Sallie/Dan/Wolfy/Jemima.

It's SO frustrating for us hardcore fans who so desperately want the show to reach the level of quality it had in its good days. BB5/6/7 are only good because of their divides and conflicts and Toya/Pauline/Helen type characters as I've said many many times before. ash/marlon and co will never ever ever ever ever give us that kind of show. come on you surely don't believe there is an iota of interest about them.

Can we get someone to pin this to the home page

[Me. I Am Salman]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

BB11 isn't a good enough argument, it was the final couple of days. The final week or so is always quieter, the housemates are exhausted and can see the light at the end of the tunnel and are all ready to go home so aren't interested in starting up anything or having meltdowns.

Name me one series with an explosive final week?

Even BB6 had a quiet last few days.

tell us marsh, if you hate large characters so much why the hell did you enjoy BB6 when it was apparently the most dislikable cast ever?

[Bluerang1]

Originally Posted by Me. I Am Salman

BB14 is a perfect example of a series starting out amazingly and going astonishingly downhill after losing its large characters. it descended into the most boring second half of a series I have ever had the misfortune of watching, nothing remotely interesting about showmances and love triangles. the forum was exactly the same last year as it is this year with its vocal hate for Sallie/Dan/Wolfy/Jemima.

It's SO frustrating for us hardcore fans who so desperately want the show to reach the level of quality it had in its good days. BB5/6/7 are only good because of their divides and conflicts and Toya/Pauline/Helen type characters as I've said many many times before. ash/marlon and co will never ever ever ever ever give us that kind of show. come on you surely don't believe there is an iota of interest about them.

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

Can we get someone to pin this to the home page

[2]

[flamingGalah!]

Yes I cannot wait for Toya to be booted out after Pauline, horrible pair...

[likklemiss44]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

Mark is the worst one in there .

are you for real? Mark is one of the funniest...would rather him any day than Toya or Pauline...

[Jords]

Me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

[likklemiss44]

cant wait to see the look on her miserable face...thinks by picking fights she is gonna be interesting...she is a fake and boring to the uttermost...where is your own personality Toya....

[Chuck]

I can't stand her but I wouldn't like to see her getting evicted so early.

[Pete.]

I can understand the Pauline hate but that's for another thread

But Toya brings the entertainment. I simply am not watching Ash, Marlon and Winston sitting around seemingly picking people off - they are no Victor.

#SaveToya

[Bluerang1]

Originally Posted by Petemitch

I can understand the Pauline hate but that's for another thread

But Toya brings the entertainment. I simply am not watching Ash, Marlon and Winston sitting around seemingly picking people off - they are no Victor.

#SaveToya

Fantastic post. No hint of lies.

[InOne]

Toya needs to go. She's not entertaining because she just spouts off now and then and barely makes sense. Nobody seems particularly loyal to her, she's just kinda there. She contributes nothing to the house at all.

[erinp5]

Looks like the show is going to limp into next week if today's anything to go by .

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by erinp5

Looks like the show is going to limp into next week if today's anything to go by .

What's the viewing figures for BB at the moment ?

Are they better than this time last year.

[Lola844]

I think both Toya and Pauline expect to leave soon. People are like I can't wait to see it in there face but I think they both know. The only one which wasn't expected was Tamara. Come on this week people will shot get Toya out and she will see it coming. So I don't think it would be any news to them.

[lovebigbrotheruk]

Originally Posted by Josy

What makes you think there will be a twist if Toya is up?

There will be. They're not going to let the most entertaining housemate leave, not going to happen.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Jack_

That isn't true at all, we get this argument every year as a defence for evicting divisive characters. 'Other housemates will step up, we'll be able to see them' and then 95% of them we get to see them and they're sh*te...just as they were before

When Sam, John James, Corin and Steve (lol) were evicted from BB11, people like JJ, Andrew and Mario didn't suddenly turn into wondrous bastions of entertainment. Those four or so episodes before the finale were some of the most painfully dull in BBUK history. When Charley and Chanelle left BB8, people like Kara-Louise didn't suddenly go into full on meltdown mode and get us all talking. When Sallie, Dan, Wolfy were evicted last year, Sam didn't finally start setting the world alight (granted BB14 managed to survive with the departures of some bigger characters because Dexter and Gina stayed around, but we got lucky)

It's basically an argument that we should gamble~ the housemates that are actually providing the discussions in favour of some other housemates that you never know~ might just step up and do the same after they've left. Why go out for burgers when you've got steak at home?

She kinda did though LOL

and anyways since this discussion point bull**** is coming up again, I'll give my two cents since when do I not?

"Drama" in and of itself is not entertaining. The drama in question here is really just Toya screaming at someone. Drama needs to be in conjunction with something else (physical humor, righteousness, wit, etc) to provide any worthwhile talking points (**** THAT PHRASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD) and Toya is dearly lacking in that department

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Me. I Am Salman

BB14 is a perfect example of a series starting out amazingly and going astonishingly downhill after losing its large characters. it descended into the most boring second half of a series I have ever had the misfortune of watching, nothing remotely interesting about showmances and love triangles. the forum was exactly the same last year as it is this year with its vocal hate for Sallie/Dan/Wolfy/Jemima.

It's SO frustrating for us hardcore fans who so desperately want the show to reach the level of quality it had in its good days. BB5/6/7 are only good because of their divides and conflicts and Toya/Pauline/Helen type characters as I've said many many times before. ash/marlon and co will never ever ever ever ever give us that kind of show. come on you surely don't believe there is an iota of interest about them.

Originally Posted by Me. I Am Salman

tell us marsh, if you hate large characters so much why the hell did you enjoy BB6 when it was apparently the most dislikable cast ever?

Originally Posted by Petemitch

I can understand the Pauline hate but that's for another thread

But Toya brings the entertainment. I simply am not watching Ash, Marlon and Winston sitting around seemingly picking people off - they are no Victor.

#SaveToya

I have nothing else to add

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Locke.

Most people don't like watching a show that is centered around a few women bitching constantly, which is why they always get evicted early on. I don't know why people are surprised and try to fight it every year when it is inevitable. Dislikable people are going to be evicted, and that is exactly what Toya, Helen, and Pauline are.

This is probably the best post I have ever seen in the BB section.

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by Me. I Am Salman

BB14 is a perfect example of a series starting out amazingly and going astonishingly downhill after losing its large characters. it descended into the most boring second half of a series I have ever had the misfortune of watching, nothing remotely interesting about showmances and love triangles. the forum was exactly the same last year as it is this year with its vocal hate for Sallie/Dan/Wolfy/Jemima.

It's SO frustrating for us hardcore fans who so desperately want the show to reach the level of quality it had in its good days. BB5/6/7 are only good because of their divides and conflicts and Toya/Pauline/Helen type characters as I've said many many times before. ash/marlon and co will never ever ever ever ever give us that kind of show. come on you surely don't believe there is an iota of interest about them.

This is the best post I've seen in a BB section