[Me. I Am Salman]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I have sigs turned off.

well you would wouldn't you.

[Jamie585]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

And instead of putting her points across maturely Toya just screams her head off and doesn't let people speak.

Both of them are immature and idiots for those reasons.

Tbh If someone was swearing at you to the extent he was, it would be very hard to keep your cool they both handled it badly but referring to Marlon his argument was non existent, it just included a load of swear words to impress his 'gang'

[Gerbil901]

Originally Posted by Me. I Am Salman

Think it's pretty clear from his sig.

I'm not a racist person I can be subjective. I do think that Marlon has done some things that made me disappointed in him. For instance for the farm task he acted like he was a scared little kid during some of the task. I also thought that he didn't come out looking very good in this video posted on the thread when he argued with Toya or the night before.

Earlier this year I thought that Evander Holyfield was out of line with his comments about gay people. I thought that towards the end of Big Brother last year that Gina Rio was starting to get out of hand with how she treated Hazel.

If anything all of my favorite housemates since I've started watching Big Brother have been white until now. I like Chris, Christopher and Winston alot and they all happen to be white.

I'm sorry if my comments like "Black Men Unite" offended you.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I have sigs turned off.

It's brilliant Marsh.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Originally Posted by Gerbil901

I'm not a racist person I can be subjective. I do think that Marlon has done some things that made me disappointed in him. For instance for the farm task he acted like he was a scared little kid during some of the task. I also thought that he didn't come out looking very good in this video posted on the thread when he argued with Toya or the night before.

Earlier this year I thought that Evander Holyfield was out of line with his comments about gay people. I thought that towards the end of Big Brother last year that Gina Rio was starting to get out of hand with how she treated Hazel.

If anything all of my favorite housemates since I've started watching Big Brother have been white until now. I like Chris, Christopher and Winston alot and they all happen to be white.

I'm sorry if my comments like "Black Men Unite" offended you.

Ok, that's fair enough, and it it didn't offend me I just thought it was silly

you can support who you like, it's just when behaviour is excused/double standards are applied when it gets a bit annoying. sorry for snapping. i think i need to sleep.

[Lwize]

Marlon attacking Toya was brilliant.

[Gerbil901]

Originally Posted by Me. I Am Salman

Ok, that's fair enough, and it it didn't offend me I just thought it was silly

you can support who you like, it's just when behaviour is excused/double standards are applied when it gets a bit annoying. sorry for snapping. i think i need to sleep.

It is silly that's exactly what my point was behind saying those things and my sig. I hate double standards myself also when whether it's against people of different races, gender, sexual orientation or whatever. It's all good though I need to get off this board myself. I have been trolling every Marlon and Toya thread on here like crazy.

[Marsh.]

See I knew it was tongue in cheek.

Silly Sally.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Me. I Am Salman

well you would wouldn't you.

It helps the forum load faster.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Jamie585

Tbh If someone was swearing at you to the extent he was, it would be very hard to keep your cool they both handled it badly but referring to Marlon his argument was non existent, it just included a load of swear words to impress his 'gang'

There's no excuse for losing your temper like that. She spoilt it for herself.

She prides herself on respect, not lowering to other people's level and rising above it. She did none of that here.

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by rionablue

Marlon is a horrible self centred vain chauvinistic bully. I have never been so disappointed in a housemate than I was tonight when I saw the high lights show. He had a dreadful attitude, thought himself ABOVE nomination, called Toya all kinds of stupid names, almost threatened her and all the time he never realised it was HE SAVED Kim as he was the only one of the three whos nominations didn't count that nominated KIm. He is a horrible human being and much and all as dislike Toya he HAS TO GO.l I will be voting with every cent I can spare to get the vile creature OUT OF THERE. Anyone with me?

No thanks, I wont miss this opportunity to kick the bitch out. Marlon is doing okay, he's being himself, not taking crap off some bitch that hasnt liked him form the start anyway.

Marlon is okay and I love the bromance building between him and Winston

[Brother Leon]

Toya was 10x more aggressive than he was. He didn't nearly threaten her either. He saw right through her attempt at trying to bait him to.

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

There's no excuse for losing your temper like that. She spoilt it for herself.

She prides herself on respect, not lowering to other people's level and rising above it. She did none of that here.

Her major problem is that she wants to rant at people and tell them like it is, but she is then not prepared to listen to any kind of rebuke, you either have to say "yes youre right Toya, I am a ****ing idiot" or she's not prepared to listen to anything you have to say

not the characteristics of a well rounded TV presenter??

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by rionablue

Marlon is a horrible self centred vain chauvinistic bully. I have never been so disappointed in a housemate than I was tonight when I saw the high lights show. He had a dreadful attitude, thought himself ABOVE nomination, called Toya all kinds of stupid names, almost threatened her and all the time he never realised it was HE SAVED Kim as he was the only one of the three whos nominations didn't count that nominated KIm. He is a horrible human being and much and all as dislike Toya he HAS TO GO.l I will be voting with every cent I can spare to get the vile creature OUT OF THERE. Anyone with me?

I dont think he has a great attitude towards women but he said it like it was tonight, him and Winston have gone sooo far up in my estimation!

[Firewire]

marlon

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by rionablue

Marlon is a horrible self centred vain chauvinistic bully. I have never been so disappointed in a housemate than I was tonight when I saw the high lights show. He had a dreadful attitude, thought himself ABOVE nomination, called Toya all kinds of stupid names, almost threatened her and all the time he never realised it was HE SAVED Kim as he was the only one of the three whos nominations didn't count that nominated KIm. He is a horrible human being and much and all as dislike Toya he HAS TO GO.l I will be voting with every cent I can spare to get the vile creature OUT OF THERE. Anyone with me?

..I kind of agree with you that I went off Marlon last night as well..I thought how his disrespectful comments about Kimberley may have just been a bit of 'lad' talk and he seemed to understand that they were wrong afterwards so I still thought he was quite cool and maybe a possible winner for me..?..and last night I did wonder at the start why he had been called into the diary room until I saw him in the diary room and saw why, he did need time to calm imo and he seems to have no respect whatsoever for females...I know how annoying Toya is and must be to those around her in the house but his reaction toward her was equally wrong and two wrongs don't make a right or make him right etc...

[Gerbil901]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I kind of agree with you that I went off Marlon last night as well..I thought how his disrespectful comments about Kimberley may have just been a bit of 'lad' talk and he seemed to understand that they were wrong afterwards so I still thought he was quite cool and maybe a possible winner for me..?..and last night I did wonder at the start why he had been called into the diary room until I saw him in the diary room and saw why, he did need time to calm imo and he seems to have no respect whatsoever for females...I know how annoying Toya is and must be to those around her in the house but his reaction toward her was equally wrong and two wrongs don't make a right or make him right etc...

I disagree. Just because a man gets into an argument with a woman doesn't mean that he doesn't respect women in general. He didn't make any comments about Kimberly again and he's never gotten into huge arguments with any of the other women in the house or called them out of their names. Most men are not disrespectful of women. Unfortunately there are women out there who get their kicks off of pushing a man to the brink and he ends up retaliating. He was tired of taking her crap and hearing her mouth and he let her have it. Women like Toya expect to talk to men like we are nothing more than gum on the bottom of their shoe but then get angry that a man has the "Audacity" to dish it back out to her.

I do think that they were both wrong regardless though. I wish that they would apologize to each other and learn to just get on for the sake of peace in the house because I hate to see stuff like that. It's not making either of them look good in my opinion.