[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Drew.

I hate the saying "Did he/she show their real side"

He's been exactly the same guy throughout the two weeks, he's been calm and hes been having a good laugh in the house.. You can't class one moment where he's been annoyed/angry and got into an argument as someones real side.. that goes for the rest of the housemates too.

..I think for me though it's more that Toya was just being exactly how she has also been from the start and I also have found her very annoying, who wouldn't if they had to live with her..?..so the argument was less about his reaction to her and more about his reaction to being up for eviction which was the telling part and the same as the rest of 'the gang of untouchables'...

[Brother Leon]

He showed that if someone goes on a mad one towards him he will put them back in place. If that's showing his real personality then so be it lol

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Josy

I thought that was an obvious joke

A bare faced lie more like !! along with the being sick on a womans Mucky Mary and sex in his sleep BS ,compulsive liar if you ask me

[Josy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

A bare faced lie more like !! along with the being sick on a woman Mucky Mary and sex in his sleep BS ,compulsive liar if you ask me

Fair enough. I am pretty sure he was joking with Danielle and whoever else it was he was talking to.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Josy

Daniel you said above,



Wouldn't that be the same thing?

I don't even like Winston but just cant work out how him retaliating to Toya makes him 'not a nice person'

I actually think he came across pretty nervous during it all.

I said he almost showed a bad side to himself so I didn't say he was a bad person did I I don't see the point of quoting that.

And me saying I don't think he is a nice person I didn't outright say that.

Im just pointing out he has a totally different side to him which isn't this whole dumb, mr nice guy persona and he may not be genuine.

Not going to lie it does do my head in when people misunderstand my posts and then quote something to "prove me wrong" which doesn't do that in the slightest.

I and others in this thread felt like there was something there that showed a different side to him which was itching to come out, I wouldn't call his behaviour nervousness I would say it was more of him trying to reel himself in and not to blow up and destroy the dumb Winston act.

[Seanbon]

Originally Posted by Verbal

I don't get the impression that there is an aggressive bone in his body, let alone against women.

I hate the attitude where people say 'you can't talk like that to a woman'. Well, sorry, if she's mouthing off at me she's gonna get a mouthful back.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

I said he almost showed a bad side to himself so I didn't say he was a bad person did I. I don't see the point of quoting that.

And me saying I don't think he is a nice person does not make him a bad person either im just pointing out he has a totally different side to him which isn't this whole dumb, mr nice guy persona.

Not going to lie it does do my head in when people misunderstand my posts and then quote something to "prove me wrong" which doesn't do that in the slightest.

I and others in this thread felt like there was something there that showed a different side to him which was itching to come out, I wouldn't call his behaviour nervousness I would say it was more of him trying to reel himself in and not to blow up and destroy the dumb Winston act.

I never quoted your comment to prove you wrong, that's why I asked after the quote isn't that the same thing

Anyway he acted in the way I would have expected him to going by his character since entering the house, he never exactly turned into Einstein during the argument either he was still struggling for words and looked nervous IMO.

[Malachi]

No Toya would test the patience of a saint. It was about time someone put her in her place. She's the biggest bully in the house. The way she mocked Winston shows how pathetic and childish she is. She then played the 'men never talk to me that way' and yet she has a YouTube blog running men down...hypocrite!

[Seanbon]

Originally Posted by Josy

I don't get how retaliating to someone shouting at you makes you a bad person. Must just be me though.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Josy

Fair enough. I am pretty sure he was joking with Danielle and whoever else it was he was talking to.

He was deadly serious and they were hook,line sinker Daniel on here believed him too

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Josy

I never quoted your comment to prove you wrong, that's why I asked after the quote isn't that the same thing

Anyway he acted in the way I would have expected him to going by his character since entering the house, he never exactly turned into Einstein during the argument either he was still struggling for words and looked nervous IMO.

Your post was aimed at me calling him a bad person when I didn't. You accused me of calling him a bad person when I was just speculating if there was a side to him which wasn't this nicey nicey guy hes been potraying.

He thought he was as safe as houses as did the rest of the house and I think thts why he acted like that, he really didn't take being nominated very well.

Sour grapes.

[Seanbon]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

No ones saying hes bad person.

Just acknowledging his mannerisms, I felt he was about to blow but stopped himself to save face seeing as nominations are coming up. It was very calculated and he almost showed a very bad side to him.

Im telling you his character hes created will slip soon, its going to be hard to keep up this dumb act for 70 odd days.

I thought he was a stock broker btw? Surely that involves having some intelligence.

Surely being able to control yourself when someone is goading you,is a good quality to have,whatever the motive?!?

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I think for me though it's more that Toya was just being exactly how she has also been from the start and I also have found her very annoying, who wouldn't if they had to live with her..?..so the argument was less about his reaction to her and more about his reaction to being up for eviction which was the telling part and the same as the rest of 'the gang of untouchables'...

He seemed like he was influenced by his friends speaking up and used that as a way to join in and let his frustration out which to me comes across as someone who isn't brave enough to take on someone by himself and maybe isn't used to it. He comes across immature and pretty stupid but we all knew that before last night. All i learnt from him last nights episode is that he panics during confrontations and uses insulting words as his way to get to someone rather than personal insults by the way they act or something they've done in the past.

I wouldn't class myself as a fan of him at all.. But the guy had no idea what to say during the argument. He doesn't strike me as someone who sits there and listens to other peoples conversations whilst building up his own views and opinions on housemates. Toya thrives of that, she knew exactly what to say during the argument, she has bad things to say about people already stored up just waiting to come out. Winston is definitely misunderstood in there.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Malachi

No Toya would test the patience of a saint. It was about time someone put her in her place. She's the biggest bully in the house. The way she mocked Winston shows how pathetic and childish she is. She then played the 'men never talk to me that way' and yet she has a YouTube blog running men down...hypocrite!

HAHA I was pissing myself at Toya mocking him.

Lets be honest how the hell is this guy a stock broker? Is it all a lie?

[00Jamie00]

He's not a stock broker, Danielle was talking to him about her wanting to have a career in which is mainly dominated by men, therefore the Stock Broker thing came up which Winston agreed was mainly dominated by men in the workplace

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Josy

Fair enough. I am pretty sure he was joking with Danielle and whoever else it was he was talking to.

Hes not joking,theres no way a shark would have left a 4" scar ,it would have ripped his arm clean off .......... http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-15-shark-vs-winston ......all the stupid King Foo noises and hand thumping ffs

[Josy]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Your post was aimed at me calling him a bad person when I didn't. You accused me of calling him a bad person when I was just speculating if there was a side to him which wasn't this nicey nicey guy hes been potraying.

He thought he was as safe as houses as did the rest of the house and I think thts why he acted like that, he really didn't take being nominated very well.

Sour grapes.

My first post wasn't even aimed at anyone?

I quoted your comment in my second post because you replied directly to me and I thought you meant something different when you previously posted in the thread, that's why there was a question after it.

I already posted what I thought in relation to the thread topic..but yeah I disagree with the original thread question and think he came across as I would have expected him to going by the way he's been in the house over the past couple of weeks.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Hes not joking,theres no way a shark would have left a 4" scar ,it would have ripped his arm clean off .......... http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-15-shark-vs-winston ......all the stupid King Foo noises and hand thumping ffs

I thought he was actually joking about the whole thing, I'm actually surprised that anyone took it as him being serious? but that's not the point of this thread so I will leave it there.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Drew.

He seemed like he was influenced by his friends speaking up and used that as a way to join in and let his frustration out which to me comes across as someone who isn't brave enough to take on someone by himself and maybe isn't used to it. He comes across immature and pretty stupid but we all knew that before last night. All i learnt from him last nights episode is that he panics during confrontations and uses insulting words as his way to get to someone rather than personal insults by the way they act or something they've done in the past.

I wouldn't class myself as a fan of him at all.. But the guy had no idea what to say during the argument. He doesn't strike me as someone who sits there and listens to other peoples conversations whilst building up his own views and opinions on housemates. Toya thrives of that, she knew exactly what to say during the argument, she has bad things to say about people already stored up just waiting to come out. Winston is definitely misunderstood in there.

...hmm, with Toya..?..credit to her though that she did hold her own against all three of them because no one else really said much or got involved, even Helen who is often quite outspoken and although just by being the Power Housemate and having to make those decisions would have meant that in a way yeah, she would have been 'ready' for confrontations more/more prepared etc..?..I don't think that she would have foreseen all three of them reacting like that so I don't think she would have known exactly what to say but was also herself in a reaction and quite defensive situation...I know she has her flaws and how that must frustrate anyone around her and maybe cause them to lose their temper etc...especially as they just realised they were up for eviction but I still also think that it's how housemates react to these things that is a large part of the show and our 'judgement' of them and to me the insults from all of them was pretty telling of their characters...I think you're right in that to react in anger or annoyance would be quite 'normal' but thyen it's how you are with that anger..the things you say etc and 'how low you go..'....

[Vicky.]

Depending on the size of the shark, it could leave a small scar?

MY sisters partner was ran over when he was younger and has a huge scar on his leg that really does look like a massive shark bite and everyone believes him that thats what it is too. Bit offtopic but true

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

HAHA I was pissing myself at Toya mocking him.

Lets be honest how the hell is this guy a stock broker? Is it all a lie?

Every chance, everything else that comes out of his mouth is a blatant lie ,so every chance this is

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by 00Jamie00

He's not a stock broker, Danielle was talking to him about her wanting to have a career in which is mainly dominated by men, therefore the Stock Broker thing came up which Winston agreed was mainly dominated by men in the workplace

I thought that's what he said in his vt?

I must have got it wrong :/

[00Jamie00]

Originally Posted by Josy

I thought he was actually joking about the whole thing, I'm actually surprised that anyone took it as him being serious? but that's not the point of this thread so I will leave it there.

He was joking Josy, it's just a story to make his scar more interesting, loads of people do it.

Like if you had a scar on your head, you could say "I was kicked in the head by a horse" when really a can of beans fell out the cupboard and hit you on the head

[TheElusiveChanteuse]

To be honest all he proved to me last night is that him having the IQ of a plant isn't an act.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by 00Jamie00

He was joking Josy, it's just a story to make his scar more interesting, loads of people do it.

Like if you had a scar on your head, you could say "I was kicked in the head by a horse" when really a can of beans fell out the cupboard and hit you on the head

..no I really was kicked in the head by a horse....in fact it was an escaped rhinoceros....