[Achilles]

Originally Posted by JTM45

I don't really see what Christopher did that was soooooo wrong!
Nobody else was taking it that seriously and he just did the same. They were trying to answer the same way as Mark, Helen and Winston would and not necessarily exactly what they thought. It wasn't a declaration task or anything!
The only reason Mark got so uppity about it was because he's on a massive "clear my name - Damage Limitation" drive after so much truth got handed to him this week. After the way Mark's treated Christopher you can hardly expect him to answer everything in a super arse-licky way. And Mark IS a massive gameplayer so why is Christopher getting stick for saying it!

And i'm an Ashleigh supporter so this bullsh*t about her supporters trying to take Christopher out because he's competition for her is just that........BULLSH*T!!!

Mark is a game player, but his game plan is obvious. Play up to the cameras and be an exaggerated version of himself. He is annoying a lot of the time, but he is also funny a lot of the time.
Christopher's game plan is different. It's all about playing the victim and creating sympathy. The reason he has spent so much time with Mark and allowed Mark to treat him badly is because he knows the public will feel sorry for him. If he was really that bothered by how Mark treats him, he would drop him. He is not bothered, because Mark treating him badly is what Christopher wants otherwise there is no sympathy for him is there?
The housemates have found him annoying since the start. Being annoying will get housemates to dislike you and you become the underdog and get sympathy from the public. Everything Christopher does in the house revolves around him getting sympathy. If you watch his VT you don't see the Jar Jar Binks character he has been in the house. Day 2 he said to Ashleigh on the wee tea upload "let's play the game". Out of the 7 originals, 4 have game plans and 3 are just being themselves. 2 of the 4 with game plans have obvious game plans and the other 2 have more calculated game plans. I am not going to say which are which because everyone knows if they think it through.

[jet]

Originally Posted by JTM45

I don't really see what Christopher did that was soooooo wrong!
Nobody else was taking it that seriously and he just did the same. They were trying to answer the same way as Mark, Helen and Winston would and not necessarily exactly what they thought. It wasn't a declaration task or anything!
The only reason Mark got so uppity about it was because he's on a massive "clear my name - Damage Limitation" drive after so much truth got handed to him this week. After the way Mark's treated Christopher you can hardly expect him to answer everything in a super arse-licky way. And Mark IS a massive gameplayer so why is Christopher getting stick for saying it!

And i'm an Ashleigh supporter so this bullsh*t about her supporters trying to take Christopher out because he's competition for her is just that........BULLSH*T!!!

It didn't really work out like that though. C had voted Mark as not the most loyal. Mark fully expected C to vote him most trustworthy when he held up his card with the Number 1 on it (one person) and he had drawn a heart on it as well. He fully expected C to have voted for him for that - that is when it seemed he got really hurt.

He put 5 people on the card for game player because he was annoyed with C and also bearing in mind the focus group but after he had held up the card with the heart and got shot down I don't think it entered his mind C would really vote him biggest game player.
Imo it was cruel of C not to try to boost him after the week he had had when he knew very well that Mark was feeling down about it. Really cruel considering they were closest to each other in the house.

I now think C has been using Mark to get airtime and sympathy. Before his thing with Mark, he wasn't in the picture at all.

[smudgie]

I really think Mark and Christopher are one person cut in two, carbon copies of each other personality wise.

Especially those moaning droning flippin' voices.

[Yaki da]

"Aww, Christopher, I feel so sorry for him"

Whenever I see this, I feel like throwing up. And yet there's not a video on youtube or a thread on Digital Spy that doesn't have some variant on this theme. It's nauseating.

[waylander1973]

Christopher had every right to say that mark's a gameplayer look how acts on the show makes a drama out of everything and needs housemates to give him attention in general, as for disloyally mark has run down christopher will some awful comments like I wouldn't be your friend if matthew was still here.

Mark is the nasty one of the two.

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by waylander1973

Christopher had every right to say that mark's a gameplayer look how acts on the show makes a drama out of everything and needs housemates to give him attention in general, as for disloyally mark has run down christopher will some awful comments like I wouldn't be your friend if matthew was still here.

Mark is the nasty one of the two.

If Christopher thinks Mark is a game player, isn't loyal and isn't trustworthy, why is he still with him? Why does he keep allowing Mark to be horrible to him?

[Kizzy]

Christopher has learnt to pick his battles with mark so mark has to 'invent' drama.

[jet]

People can twist it any way they like, but Mark and Christopher are partners in the house and talked about going on dates outside. No matter what, Christopher should have shown him some loyalty and respect both in the task and in the garden afterwards, when he was slagging off Mark to Chris about 'the stupid tealeaf thing' and the 'stupid comments he makes'!!! With friends like Christopher, who needs enemies. What an asshole.

[billy123]

I dont mind him he isnt brilliant but he is hardly an offensive character.

[waylander1973]

Originally Posted by Achilles

If Christopher thinks Mark is a game player, isn't loyal and isn't trustworthy, why is he still with him? Why does he keep allowing Mark to be horrible to him?

I wish I KNEW, if somebody treated me like that, I would tell that person to get lost if I was in the house even if would get me nominated as a result, this is criticism of christopher which I will not defend.

[CaudleHalbard]

I think the problem may be that Christopher is actually enjoying the attention on some level, albeit through gritted teeth at times......

[waylander1973]

I swear this is like the kim and steven relationship.

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by waylander1973

I wish I KNEW, if somebody treated me like that, I would tell that person to get lost if I was in the house even if would get me nominated as a result, this is criticism of christopher which I will not defend.

If he allows Mark to be horrible to him he gets sympathy from the public. If he dropped Mark weeks ago, he would not get any sympathy from the public.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Achilles

If Christopher thinks Mark is a game player, isn't loyal and isn't trustworthy, why is he still with him? Why does he keep allowing Mark to be horrible to him?

We know the answer, don't we? Without that, Christopher would have no story line, no air time. He loves it. He encouraged it.
Since he realized Mark wasn't the public's fave after all, he has become much more assertive with him as it doesn't suit him to be seen as Mark's play thing any more. Now it's all "I'm not going to be treated like that!" and agreeing with the public's opinion of him.
He's a disloyal asshole and he's despicable. And to think he was a big fave of mine until 2 days ago. He had the wool pulled over my eyes alright.

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Oh my goodness - what about the times Mark left christopher out of choosing him to be in his team. We have short memories peoples. That was sweet revenge for christopher and I loved it.

[Yaki da]

Mark and Christopher are both arseholes. I don't know why one is unpopular whilst the other isn't. No surprise though that the "victim" of the two garners such support.

[jet]

Originally Posted by muchadoaboutnothing

Oh my goodness - what about the times Mark left christopher out of choosing him to be in his team. We have short memories peoples. That was sweet revenge for christopher and I loved it.

There's a huge difference between that and calling your partner and closest friend in the house disloyal, untrustworthy and a game player.

[waylander1973]

Originally Posted by Achilles

If he allows Mark to be horrible to him he gets sympathy from the public. If he dropped Mark weeks ago, he would not get any sympathy from the public.

Well that your's view which you are every right to have.

Personally I hope the relationship blows up on monday when mark noms christopher. I CAN'T stand it.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Achilles

Mark isn't a devious game player. He's just an annoying Ewok. He plays up to the cameras, but we all know he is playing up to the cameras. He is not fooling or attempting to fool anyone. He is just being himself, a cartoon character. So you either like him or don't like him. There is no ? about him. It's a simple "do I like Mark or do I not like Mark?".

I don't like Mark but that doesn't mean that Christopher was correct in what he did.

If he doesn't think Mark is loyal and trustworthy why the **** is he pursuing a relationship with him in the house? For air time most probably because he was under the illusion that Mark was the winner, until the focus group task that is and that's why he's now thrown him under the bus.

[Vladimir]

Originally Posted by Achilles

If he allows Mark to be horrible to him he gets sympathy from the public. If he dropped Mark weeks ago, he would not get any sympathy from the public.

So true!

Mark >>> Christopher

I know that Mark is seen as fake but at least he's really funny sometimes unlike Christopher who's just annoying.

[waterhog]

disagree - if you no someone is fake they can not be funny as you no its fake - thats why i never wasted my time with either of them and i new from day dot that christopher is so weak its embarrassing.

[odd sock]

Originally Posted by JTM45

I don't really see what Christopher did that was soooooo wrong!
Nobody else was taking it that seriously and he just did the same. They were trying to answer the same way as Mark, Helen and Winston would and not necessarily exactly what they thought. It wasn't a declaration task or anything!
The only reason Mark got so uppity about it was because he's on a massive "clear my name - Damage Limitation" drive after so much truth got handed to him this week. After the way Mark's treated Christopher you can hardly expect him to answer everything in a super arse-licky way. And Mark IS a massive gameplayer so why is Christopher getting stick for saying it!

And i'm an Ashleigh supporter so this bullsh*t about her supporters trying to take Christopher out because he's competition for her is just that........BULLSH*T!!!

spot on

[Daffodil]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Christopher is about the only housemate in there that I would want to spend any time with. I could probably tolerate Winston for a while.

The rest can go and jump in the lake!

halleluyia!!!

[Nell_McCoy]

Christopher is still my number 2 but I like him a bit less now, he is obviously well versed in pretending to be someone he's not. His accent is absolutely unnatural for the son of a dairy farmer from Fermanagh, it is a posh, South Belfast (Cherry Velly) accent and anyone from Northern Ireland will know this. I still hope he comes 2nd though as the rest of them are worse than him.

[rocket]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

But he's right ... mark is a gameplayer, and he isn't the most loyal in the house.
Why just because they have this over dramatised faux romance going on does christopher have to explain his reasoning to mark?

Mark is totally self obsessed, it's so exhausting listening to him drone on about how he 'feels' all the time.

Totally correct...
It's unbelievable how everyone has blamed Christopher, Mark himself predicted he was the biggest game player, then when Christopher agrees he's knocked down for it by all and sundry..if Christopher had disagreed Mark would have lost ..I'm afraid Christopher was in a no win situation...
People forget how bad Mark treated Christopher when he didn't pick to be on his dancing team , then he didn't pick him to go to the party...how do you all think Christopher felt then...awful...but because he didn't cause a stink you all forget.

I really hope Christopher wins ...