[alex_front2]

Helen and Pav even call him pointless Pav to his face.

[Lister of Smeg]

He's turning into Jale 2.0 .

[alex_front2]

When Ash called him PP he looked a bit sullen. Still it's a price he's willing to pay to be acknowledged by cool gang.

[Pete.]

They should stop soon otherwise he will get sympathy votes

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Lister of Smeg

He's turning into Jale 2.0 .

She wasn't like that?

[Razor]

Originally Posted by Lister of Smeg

He's turning into Jale 2.0 .

Very sad to watch. Plus all the feeling sorry for himself and 'I am alone' comments in the diary room.

I half wonder if it's all part of his game plan.

[dyfed]

Very sad to see Pav crawling up their backside,it has done him no favours.

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

She wasn't like that?

Were you watching the same show ?

Jale totally sold her soul just so Helen would be her fwiend!!! It was pathetically sad.

[andybigbro]

I think they do it on jest.

It's just a bit of fun, like friends taking the mick.

[joeysteele]

Well to be fair Ash and Helen have spoken to him more from what we have seen and Pav already has a massive distrust and possible dislike of Chris.

Pointless Pav is not that bad although I would have used a different word likely myself.

[Lister of Smeg]

Originally Posted by Razor

Very sad to watch. Plus all the feeling sorry for himself and 'I am alone' comments in the diary room.

I half wonder if it's all part of his game plan.

Yeah he did the same thing after Nominations last week went to the diary room and tried to claim to be lonely yet was more than ever integrated into the group .

[alex_front2]

Pav should have stuck to his lonely, isolated sympathy vote "schtick" it would have lifted him from 1st out to maybe 3rd out.

[kistar]

When he was lying on the bed next to Helen giving Ash a massage!

[joeysteele]

Actually, I am far from sure he will be first out now.

[Jords]

oh Pav

[Brother Leon]

The "Pointless Pav" stuff isn't malicious. Look at the digs Ash threw at Helen. It's all love. They are a lot more welcoming to him than Chris and Ashleigh were so it's no shock he wants to spend his time with them. At least e won't have to worry about looking like a perv around them.

[alex_front2]

Originally Posted by kistar

When he was lying on the bed next to Helen giving Ash a massage!

To quote Marlon it was "awks ", he's so desperate he's happy playing 3rd wheel knowing full well if Mark n Winston had still been in, it would have been "Pav" who?

[Crimson Dynamo]

You could see the years of wearing the turban and feeling ostracised

Religion has so much to answer for

[reece(:]

Pav trying to garn sympathy votes? He is pointless anyway

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well to be fair Ash and Helen have spoken to him more from what we have seen and Pav already has a massive distrust and possible dislike of Chris.

Pointless Pav is not that bad although I would have used a different word likely myself.

Pav has distrust of all of them and has played the poor me theme very well. Think about it, when he went in he attached himself to Mark, Mark was the winner at that time, Pav knew that. Then he went with Winston another supposed winner. Pav knows what he is doing and he had good knowledge of the HMs beforehand.

[alex_front2]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

You could see the years of wearing the turban and feeling ostracised

Religion has so much to answer for

His mates on bbots have been Asian/ Sikhs, too. One revealed he will do something crazy e.g. balance an orange on head to entertain us

But I get your point, once faith (obvious faith) comes into play, one becomes less relatable. Winston, Ash, Steve = lads. Pav = Sikh

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

The "Pointless Pav" stuff isn't malicious. Look at the digs Ash threw at Helen. It's all love. They are a lot more welcoming to him than Chris and Ashleigh were so it's no shock he wants to spend his time with them. At least e won't have to worry about looking like a perv around them.

That is debateable because now he is pointless, Helen has only now decided that she likes him, strange that she knows that the others have minds of their own and are not sheep. She has lost 3 of her main soldiers so now she has to depend on pointless.

[alex_front2]

Originally Posted by Jules2

That is debateable because now he is pointless, Helen has only now decided that she likes him, strange that she knows that the others have minds of their own and are not sheep. She has lost 3 of her main soldiers so now she has to depend on pointless.

Also as she must know that he's battling against Ash as first one out and doesn't want Pav to get sympathy vote.

[Northern Monkey]

Feel abit sorry for him,He just wants to fit in with the cool kids but he never will.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Jules2

Pav has distrust of all of them and has played the poor me theme very well. Think about it, when he went in he attached himself to Mark, Mark was the winner at that time, Pav knew that. Then he went with Winston another supposed winner. Pav knows what he is doing and he had good knowledge of the HMs beforehand.

I agree Jules2,I do think genuinely the person he least likes or would ever trust in there now however is Chris.