[daniel-lewis-1985]

She does mutter comments under her breath in group situations making people uncomfortable, she does moan a lot and she does take herself off to corners of the house and bitch.....A lot.

Tonight I have totally been on Helens side and over the last few days have found ive gone off Ashleigh despite only last week I wanted her to win.

Maybe Ashleigh would have been a lot happier and involved if Chris had left. Its like when Danielle was there she was hated because Danielle and her were just miserable together but after she left we saw a much nice Ashleigh and the public turned around in a massive way.

Shes let me down to be honest.

[Lstan]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

She does mutter comments under her breath in group situations making people uncomfortable, she does moan a lot and she does take herself off to corners of the house and bitch.....A lot.

Tonight I have totally been on Helens side and over the last few days have found ive gone off Ashleigh despite only last week I wanted her to win.

Maybe Ashleigh would have been a lot happier and involved if Chris had left. Its like when Danielle was there she was hated because Danielle and her were just miserable together but after she left we saw a much nice Ashleigh and the public turned around in a massive way.

Shes let me down to be honest.

I think both helen and ashleigh are in control and hold control of the house and are equal in that respect, they both appear to be the heads of either side hence tonights show. But i am being a bit of a captain obvious now so i apologise.

[Creggle]

It's difficult though when Helen does the same but more vocal, Ashleigh seems to like Ash and Pav somewhat, I just think it's being around Helen she can't stand. They are both as bad as one another for his whole divide debacle though, they got on for a week and it was quite good.

[jessicadanielle]

I think Ashleigh and Helen are equally responsible for the divide, along with a number of other hms, but Helen has much more power over her friends than Ashleigh ever has in my opinion.

Both Helen and Steven had to bring up Chris in the trial thing claiming he's something to do with it when it was about Helen or Ashleigh. That in itself was sort of pitching them as a group against their own group. They made a point of the divide.

Also on a slightly unrelated note, Ashleigh accepted some responsibility for the divide while Helen just seemed to act like she had played no part in any disharmony in the house, which surely even she can see is completely untrue. Ashleigh's acceptance of some role in the divide showed more maturity, and Helen's complete unwillingness to accept any part in it sounded like guilt to me.

[Samm]

Let be honest she doesn't

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

Let be honest she doesn't

What a pointless contribution but thanks anyway.

[Lstan]

Originally Posted by Craigy_CraigO

It's difficult though when Helen does the same but more vocal, Ashleigh seems to like Ash and Pav somewhat, I just think it's being around Helen she can't stand. They are both as bad as one another for his whole divide debacle though, they got on for a week and it was quite good.

pretty much.

[Lstan]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

What a pointless contribution but thanks anyway.

[Lstan]

Originally Posted by jessicadanielle

I think Ashleigh and Helen are equally responsible for the divide, along with a number of other hms, but Helen has much more power over her friends than Ashleigh ever has in my opinion.

I think since last week/maybe 2 weeks ago its changed and recently they are similar in this way even though they go about it in different ways-which maybe is inevitiable as there are only 6 of them left.

[MrWong]

Do you seek out aggressive people to be friends with?

I avoid them personally.

Helen's actions create the divide.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Do you seek out aggressive people to be friends with?

I avoid them personally.

Helen's actions create the divide.

Well Helens had more friends so obviously people must "seek out aggression".

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

Let be honest she doesn't

[Samm]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

What a pointless contribution but thanks anyway.

No it isn't I'm saying my opinion she doesn't no need to make a massive paragraph

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

She does mutter comments under her breath in group situations making people uncomfortable, she does moan a lot and she does take herself off to corners of the house and bitch.....A lot.

Tonight I have totally been on Helens side and over the last few days have found ive gone off Ashleigh despite only last week I wanted her to win.

Maybe Ashleigh would have been a lot happier and involved if Chris had left. Its like when Danielle was there she was hated because Danielle and her were just miserable together but after she left we saw a much nice Ashleigh and the public turned around in a massive way.

Shes let me down to be honest.

She has totally ostracised herself deliberately, and why does an 18 year old girl think everything thats fun is 'immature'.................she should be joining in when they break open a door and run in the camera runs, she should be first in the queue to play pranks or jump in the pool or just have a laugh

she's too busy pulling a nasty face or slating everyone else in the house to have any fun, and constantly harping on about wanting to go home.....

when she's says in the DR that she's having fun.I think "well tell your face for f.ck sake"

I think she is 18 but acting like an 80 year old, she needs to get a grip and have a life

[Brother Leon]

Of course she does. The Divide is mostly down to her imo. Helen gets the blame for being the more aggressive though obviously.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Well Helens had more friends so obviously people must "seek out aggression".

She doesn't target her friends.

Blow smoke up her arse and your fine.

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

Of course she does. The Divide is mostly down to her imo. Helen gets the blame for being the more aggressive though obviously.

most of Helens arguments are funny though, I didnt like the one with Danielle, cause I didnt like Helen then but now she cracks me up when she starts ranting, and when Ash starts taking the piss out of her while she's ranting and it makes her smile and immediately calms her down and makes her see it for what it is...................Ash is a sweetheart

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

Of course she does. The Divide is mostly down to her imo. Helen gets the blame for being the more aggressive though obviously.

helens guilty end of

[ruiphillips]

Ashleigh only created a divide because she didn't want to associate with someone vile like Helen. But, instead surround herself with positive people like Christoper and Chris.

[sungrass]

Yeah today has been a very useful episode. I cant vote for either Ashleigh or Helen. Neither of them deserve to win - who does?! This series is impossible.
None of them are likable.

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by MrWong

She doesn't target her friends.

Blow smoke up her arse and your fine.

Is that like a colonic irrigation but without the fizz??

thats Ashleigh, full of sh.t and no fizz lol

[Forgetmenot]

Originally Posted by jessicadanielle

I think Ashleigh and Helen are equally responsible for the divide, along with a number of other hms, but Helen has much more power over her friends than Ashleigh ever has in my opinion.

Both Helen and Steven had to bring up Chris in the trial thing claiming he's something to do with it when it was about Helen or Ashleigh. That in itself was sort of pitching them as a group against their own group. They made a point of the divide.

Also on a slightly unrelated note, Ashleigh accepted some responsibility for the divide while Helen just seemed to act like she had played no part in any disharmony in the house, which surely even she can see is completely untrue. Ashleigh's acceptance of some role in the divide showed more maturity, and Helen's complete unwillingness to accept any part in it sounded like guilt to me.

Nonsense! It was a really stupid nasty cruel idea to have this court thing and I dislike the woman put up as ''Judge" emencely, she, along with BB should be deeply ashamed of them selves.disgusting thing to do to any one.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

She has totally ostracised herself deliberately, and why does an 18 year old girl think everything thats fun is 'immature'.................she should be joining in when they break open a door and run in the camera runs, she should be first in the queue to play pranks or jump in the pool or just have a laugh

she's too busy pulling a nasty face or slating everyone else in the house to have any fun, and constantly harping on about wanting to go home.....

when she's says in the DR that she's having fun.I think "well tell your face for f.ck sake"

I think she is 18 but acting like an 80 year old, she needs to get a grip and have a life

Great post Miranda and I agree with all Daniel said in the op too.

She is amazingly downbeat for an 18 year old and has contributed in my view as much to divides in t e house as anyone else.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by sungrass

Yeah today has been a very useful episode. I cant vote for either Ashleigh or Helen. Neither of them deserve to win - who does?! This series is impossible.
None of them are likable.

At least Helen wears her heart on her sleave whereas Ashleigh is a devious nasty little cow who sneaks around spitting her poison.

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by LukeB

helens guilty end of

you should get that printed on a t shirt for all the good it will do ya lol