[warrenhill]

To make up with Ashleigh to look good by one of the other ex house mates when they came into the house for the party?

It all seems a bit to good to be true that Helen has suddenly turned a full circle about Ashleigh.

In my opinion Helen is not a person who changes their mind on anything or anyone so maybe she was advised that doing this might give her a decent chance of snatching the crown.

Out of all the house mates left i think she is the one where the money and fame matters most

Also she is the best winner for C5 and the media as i think the others would just fade back into normal life very quickly but Helen already has had plenty of dealings with the media.

Its a win win situation for all if Helen did win.....

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

I thought too, I've got a feeling that either BB have said something about trying to make up with Ashleigh & put your differences aside for the final, but on the other hand I wouldn't be amazed if Steven has said some to her when he was in the house about her behaviour, telling her public are on Ashleigh side, it just seems so obvious to me that someone has said something to make her have a change of all of sudden.

[Nedusa]

Yes, I agree I think now that there is an increasing chance that Helen could actually win this show now .

All the pieces for her are falling into place.



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[Denver]

Please not this again cant two woman genuinley make up and end there time in the house on a high without it being advised/fix

[joeysteele]

No,I don't,it seemed spontaneous and all very genuine to me, I felt it came as a relief to both of them after a much better day in the house to actually just accept they are different people and come together.

I saw and read nothing into it whatsoever as to anything else and anyway, Ashleigh would have had to have something said too as to making up and I cannot see where either would respond to such an idea,so for me, no way at all was Helen/Ashleigh or both 'advised' at all.

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by warrenhill

To make up with Ashleigh to look good by one of the other ex house mates when they came into the house for the party?

It all seems a bit to good to be true that Helen has suddenly turned a full circle about Ashleigh.

In my opinion Helen is not a person who changes their mind on anything or anyone so maybe she was advised that doing this might give her a decent chance of snatching the crown.

Out of all the house mates left i think she is the one where the money and fame matters most

Also she is the best winner for C5 and the media as i think the others would just fade back into normal life very quickly but Helen already has had plenty of dealings with the media.

Its a win win situation for all if Helen did win.....

Steven when he hugged her whispered in her ear to make it up with her.

[Denver]

Anyway im sure they made up before the party

[Nedusa]

Yes I agree she probably would not have made up with Ashleigh so I think she was told something by Steven and suddenly Ashleigh is her best mate.

A bit fishy tbh , I think Steven has given her some feedback when he whispered to her.




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[Denver]

I cant believe the helen hate on this forum is so bad that she cant make up with someone without it being fake or advised

[sampvt]

Here we go again, every time Helen does something nice or right, it is misconstrued by ???????? that it must be rigged or advised. What a crock of s.h.i.t. She has never suffered fools and has decided that she wont let the little cow, Dermaglen Dottie, ruin her last 2 days, so she made up but wont be sitting holding her hand anytime soon.

She will be probably hoping it messes with DD's head and she implodes. No doubt everyone in that house now knows who is fav to win so its all going to be nicey nicey DD for 2 days now she thinks she has it sewn up.......SHE HASNT...she cant win, my reputation is on the line here, it just cant happen, end of. lol.

[joeysteele]

It wouldn't matter if anyone had said anything to Helen, it takes 2 to make up so someone must have said something to Asheiegh surely too to respond as she did.

I've been on courses where 2 or more people never got on, always made snide remarks and even argued a fair bit of the time.
At the end of the course and the social events afterwards,those divisions came down and it was amazing the change and how they got on and enjoyed themselves with each other and all others there too.

I find it amusing that it is being suggested something was said to Helen as if Helen could force Ashleigh to make up anyway.
They 'both' would have had to agree to do so, not just one of them.

I don't belive for an instant anyone said anything at all,it was totally genuine in my view.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by adamski94

I cant believe the helen hate on this forum is so bad that she cant make up with someone without it being fake or advised

It really is incredible isn't it.I agree 100%

[ruiphillips]

Originally Posted by warrenhill

Also she is the best winner for C5
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Ew at the thought of her winning.

[Nedusa]

I think the winner will be a woman and/or come from Northern Ireland.




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[dyfed]

Too much interference from the outside world,I am sure "pick your nose "Steve gave her a message from their agent,funny how all of the hm that went in are with the same agent, ??

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Here we go again, every time Helen does something nice or right, it is misconstrued by ???????? that it must be rigged or advised. What a crock of s.h.i.t. She has never suffered fools and has decided that she wont let the little cow, Dermaglen Dottie, ruin her last 2 days, so she made up but wont be sitting holding her hand anytime soon.

She will be probably hoping it messes with DD's head and she implodes. No doubt everyone in that house now knows who is fav to win so its all going to be nicey nicey DD for 2 days now she thinks she has it sewn up.......SHE HASNT...she cant win, my reputation is on the line here, it just cant happen, end of. lol.

..so it's wrong/cynical and unnecessary..(which it is..)..to always think of 'motives' with Helen and that there is nothing positive or genuine about her but that can't be extended to Ashleigh with the name calling and cynicism there...

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by adamski94

I cant believe the helen hate on this forum is so bad that she cant make up with someone without it being fake or advised

Yes,people really need to look at themselves,that was spontaneous,and genuine,people are just feeling a bit worried now that she may be liked and gain votes,it's as simple as that really.Helen was gaining votes before this,Helen is a lot of things but 'fake' is not one of them,so let the haters fester,it wont make any difference to people who like her.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by adamski94

Anyway im sure they made up before the party

Yes they did but after the tasks, Steven in particular is obsessed with hatred for Ashleigh and Chris I hate to be cynical but I'm convinced he said something to her, she was kissing Ashleighs hands fgs and telling her she had won BB it was all very strange and such a massive turnaround I find it hard to believe.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..so it's wrong/cynical and unnecessary..(which it is..)..to always think of 'motives' with Helen and that there is nothing positive or genuine about her but that can't be extended to Ashleigh with the name calling and cynicism there...

Your opinion is valid, even if it is wrong (in my eyes) A winner, in my book, is a person who has been honest, given up some funny moments, played the game within the rules and has been constant throughout. I have absolutely no time for devious or backstabbing people which sums up my dislike for Ashleigh. Helen is a bitch, but at least what you see is what you get and she has made this years series watchable.

Dermaglen Dottie is a spoilt brat with no redeeming qualities and suckers her fans into loving her by using tried and tested methods that have been handed down the centuries which people like me abhor, so in short, she is not a worthy winner, but I am in the minority anyway, so don't worry.

If she wins, she will no doubt con the public out of loads of dosh and it wont teach her a thing, she will amble through life treading on people and make thousands by being a bitch. Helen will make more by being a bitch as well but the difference is one is in your face bitchy, the other a behind your back bitchy. I know who I prefer.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Your opinion is valid, even if it is wrong (in my eyes) A winner, in my book, is a person who has been honest, given up some funny moments, played the game within the rules and has been constant throughout. I have absolutely no time for devious or backstabbing people which sums up my dislike for Ashleigh. Helen is a bitch, but at least what you see is what you get and she has made this years series watchable.

Dermaglen Dottie is a spoilt brat with no redeeming qualities and suckers her fans into loving her by using tried and tested methods that have been handed down the centuries which people like me abhor, so in short, she is not a worthy winner, but I am in the minority anyway, so don't worry.

If she wins, she will no doubt con the public out of loads of dosh and it wont teach her a thing, she will amble through life treading on people and make thousands by being a bitch. Helen will make more by being a bitch as well but the difference is one is in your face bitchy, the other a behind your back bitchy. I know who I prefer.

..I don't think you are in a minority, I think they both have an equal chance of winning as Helen's popularity is quickly increasing in a very short space of time..and I understand your reasons for not liking Ashleigh whether I agree with them or not but for me personally the name calling has been unnecessary in posting a dislike of someone because that dislike can be expressed without that..it adds nothing to expressing opinions at all...and I know that some Anti Helen people have done the same thing which is equally wrong but two wrongs etc...I think a lot has been mentioned about 'old style BB' and one of the things about that for me is choosing a winner rather than who to dislike the most for whatever reasons we choose that winner because that's all perspective and not playing into this 'hate game' that BB have subjected us to...anyway just my opinion but I wish them both good luck and it'll be nice to see them get ready for it and maybe share a laugh together while doing their hair/makeup etc....

[Alf]

Anybody got a video link to the ex-housemates coming in the house? I've not seen it yet and with only a 1 hour 45 minute show and six interviews to get through I doubt we'll see any highlights of yesterday.

Thanks in advance

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Yes,people really need to look at themselves,that was spontaneous,and genuine,people are just feeling a bit worried now that she may be liked and gain votes,it's as simple as that really.Helen was gaining votes before this,Helen is a lot of things but 'fake' is not one of them,so let the haters fester,it wont make any difference to people who like her.

..tbf it was the same yesterday when Ashleigh cried and there was cynicism about her tears but I think they're both spontaneous emotions and genuine in these instances...I'm sure everyone finds the 'tit for tat' annoying ..they've probably both been fake at times and both been genuine at times and that's the truth of it because there is positive in everyone ...

[bots]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Yes I agree she probably would not have made up with Ashleigh so I think she was told something by Steven and suddenly Ashleigh is her best mate.

A bit fishy tbh , I think Steven has given her some feedback when he whispered to her.
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As I said in another thread, many viewers have seen the good in Helen for weeks now, others haven't. That's life.

I can understand questions being asked if there was outside influence, I saw the turnaround before any outside influence, when Helen was in the bedsit and didn't kick off on returning to the house. That was the key moment that allowed the rest of the events to transpire.

At the end of the day, I am just happy that it happened. Helen and Ashleigh are much happier, the other hm are much happier, many of the viewers who support their own favourite hm are much happier. Sure, for whatever reason, some would prefer conflict to continue, that's always the case, but the majority will always be in favour of the status quo

[chuff me dizzy]

We will never know,there will be plenty of speculation,but no one knows

[Vicky.]

Possibly...but it seemed pretty genuine to me tbh...maybe I am just a bit naive

I suspect Helen finally clicked onto it being BB causing the divide...