[Josy]

Who came out looking the worst in that argument there between Dee and Gary?

Gary seemed a bit grumpy in the kitchen tbf but then I think Dee completely over reacted then resorted to threats of violence and proceeded to bitch for an hour in the kitchen to anyone who would listen, she also felt the need to repeat the same insult over and over..

I also think she was gunning for Gary a bit after the kitchen incident because she was sitting on the sofa growling at him when he was in the kitchen.

Gary went into the room, lay on the bed and never said anything else about it.

So taking all that into account I think Dee looked a right twat.

[zakman440]

Definitely Dee.

[jessicadanielle]

Dee definitely. I agree Gary in the living room was grumpy, but outside she was just being ridiculous. Where did all of this "don't get in my face" while getting in Gary's face business come from? He wasn't in her face at all imo.

[abhorson]

99% Dee. 1% for the benefit!

[bots]

Originally Posted by Josy

So taking all that into account I think Dee looked a right twat.

Gary is a great communicator, although the other housemates refuse to see it or understand it.

No one has the depth or the intelligence to take Gary on in there so what we saw was Dee resorting to dirty tactics to try and gain the upper hand, failing miserably. I would imagine, in the outside world, she would have taken a physical swipe at Gary by now, maybe that's harsh of me, but its how she comes across to me. I think she is someone that uses her size and physicality to dominate people

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Dee 100%

[Cherie]

Bitter bitch Dee

[Pete.]

Tbh this is Gary's 100th argument so at this stage he's coming across as really rude

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Petemitch

Tbh this is Gary's 100th argument so at this stage he's coming across as really rude

After the way they all treat him i say they deserve a bit of their own medicine.

[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Gary is a great communicator, although the other housemates refuse to see it or understand it.

No one has the depth or the intelligence to take Gary on in there so what we saw was Dee resorting to dirty tactics to try and gain the upper hand, failing miserably. I would imagine, in the outside world, she would have taken a physical swipe at Gary by now, maybe that's harsh of me, but its how she comes across to me. I think she is someone that uses her size and physicality to dominate people

I agree that in some ways Gary is a great communicator, but the whole concept of having good communication skills means being able to adapt them to fit the audience and purpose. Gary fails to do that imo, it's why he's always called rude.

Agree about Dee btw, I'd be quite intimidated by her if I'm honest.

[Mystic Mock]

Well on shallow reasons Dee, to do with the actual argument Dee as she thinks that she's Helen from BB15 but she lacks almost everything that Helen had about her that made Helen entertaining to watch.

[Northern Monkey]

I can't believe at the start i said something along the lines of "Dee is a lovely woman".She has certainly smashed that theory,God she's awful.Every time anybody nominates someone she likes in f2f's she pulls that nasty spiteful face,Threatening a 70 year old man with physical and mental problems is disgusting,She is a scumbag.She does'nt deserve to be in any show with the word "Celebrity" in the title or infront of any TV camera.I don't ever use the word "vile" but for her it is very fitting.Awful!

[Liam-]

Gary was definitely in the wrong, he got in her face first.. And the went on to mock and patronise her as they were having a conversation, he purposely wound her up and had a massive smile on his face as he did so, Dee had every right to get annoyed.. The 'smash his face in' comment wasn't necessary, but Gary was totally in the wrong.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Gary is a great communicator, although the other housemates refuse to see it or understand it.

No one has the depth or the intelligence to take Gary on in there so what we saw was Dee resorting to dirty tactics to try and gain the upper hand, failing miserably. I would imagine, in the outside world, she would have taken a physical swipe at Gary by now, maybe that's harsh of me, but its how she comes across to me. I think she is someone that uses her size and physicality to dominate people

I was thinking that myself, she would make a terrible carer in any sort of home, she is far to nosey and feels she has to interfere in everyones business. Her boyfriend already has a wife/partner and a child cant remember which, I wonder if she knows and if she does then she doesnt have much thought for the child.....

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

Gary was definitely in the wrong, he got in her face first.. And the went on to mock and patronise her as they were having a conversation, he purposely wound her up and had a massive smile on his face as he did so, Dee had every right to get annoyed.. The 'smash his face in' comment wasn't necessary, but Gary was totally in the wrong.

If you watched it on LF Dee had a smirk on her face most of the time, she was smirking to someone else who wasnt shown, it was possibly George as Gary wanted to talk to him and she wouldnt let him. There was a bit more to it. It is about time Gary has something to say to the so and sos they have had a whale of a time with him. She was downright nasty to him.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by jessicadanielle

I agree that in some ways Gary is a great communicator, but the whole concept of having good communication skills means being able to adapt them to fit the audience and purpose. Gary fails to do that imo, it's why he's always called rude.

Agree about Dee btw, I'd be quite intimidated by her if I'm honest.

He has trouble with accents and knowing what terms are in use, he therefore misunderstands. His deafness does not help one bit. It is a fact that different things have alternative meanings in different cultures. It cant be easy for him.

[MojoNixon]

True votes, not fixed ones

[delta]

Deaf people do lean forward to catch what you are saying.

Dee adopted the aggressive posture in response to what she thought was aggression by Gary.

The rest of them are totally despicable towards him. Audley is the only one where the penny has finally dropped. He's an ageing , deaf, poorly gentlemen, who is set in his ways.

[Sophiee]

dee by far, gary came across as vacant and innocent really.

[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by Jules2

He has trouble with accents and knowing what terms are in use, he therefore misunderstands. His deafness does not help one bit. It is a fact that different things have alternative meanings in different cultures. It cant be easy for him.

I didn't really mean his comprehension of what other people says, but the way he speaks to others. He often talks about abstract things which can alienate some people.

There's nothing wrong with that btw, I'm just commenting on the opinion of another forum member that Gary is a great communicator.

[the truth]

dee looked like the bullying twat she is....gar was great and exposed her black heart yet again....she of course threatened to smash his face in, but big brother didnt warn her because shes a woman....even though it was her umpteenth threat of violence,

[joeysteele]

Absolutely Dee,this is the worst she has come across in this series too, she was way out of order.

[jet]

Gary was wrong in the kitchen, when he was rude to her and then said something about wanting a fight. (if I heard that right?) But in the garden Dee was awful, sitting there with that sly look and getting into his face. Then telling him she wasn't his carer!!! And Gary goes 'You never were' and she says 'I know'. WTF did she say it for then??? Then she gets a dig in about his hygiene and tops it all with a threat of violence. Loathsome woman.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by jet

Gary was wrong in the kitchen, when he was rude to her and then said something about wanting a fight. (if I heard that right?) But in the garden Dee was awful, sitting there with that sly look and getting into his face. Then telling him she wasn't his carer!!! And Gary goes 'You never were' and she says 'I know'. WTF did she say it for then??? Then she gets a dig in about his hygiene and tops it all with a threat of violence. Loathsome woman.

The trouble is we dont really know what that was about in the kitchen, if I remember rightly it was straight after Frenchy went. I know that Dee had said to Ricci and Lauren that they would be alright now that Frenchy had gone because it was Frenchy who had nominated them.

Have a look at Dee's face in this latest task, Gary wrote a piece about Stephanie which wasnt nasty at all, her face was a study. She clearly doesnt like or understand him.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by jessicadanielle

I didn't really mean his comprehension of what other people says, but the way he speaks to others. He often talks about abstract things which can alienate some people.

There's nothing wrong with that btw, I'm just commenting on the opinion of another forum member that Gary is a great communicator.

Ah I was just generalising tbh but because he talks on the spiritual line it is definitely a difficult thing for many to understand. His logic is understandable though if they could get past the thinking "rude" bit. I would love to sit and have a chat with him.