[the truth]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

She seemed to be doing the job fine, along with stealing from the safe to feed her smack habit.

It was only when she was convicted that she started claiming depression. What other assumption can we make?

its what happened. its disgusting.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

She seemed to be doing the job fine

Apologies. I had no idea you worked with her.

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

along with stealing from the safe to feed her smack habit.

So she's an addict too? Wow, clearly fit to work.

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

It was only when she was convicted that she started claiming depression. What other assumption can we make?

Was it? Had she never mentioned it in her life before?
Or was she only diagnosed with depression at this point?

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Apologies. I had no idea you worked with her.



So she's an addict too? Wow, clearly fit to work.



Was it? Had she never mentioned it in her life before?
Or was she only diagnosed with depression at this point?

Why would I need to work with her?

She was described in court as a trusted and conscientious employee until the theft was discovered.

So her life, job and criminal enterprises all seemed to be fine until she got caught and faked depression.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Why would I need to work with her?

She was described in court as a trusted and conscientious employee until the theft was discovered.

So her life, job and criminal enterprises all seemed to be fine until she got caught and faked depression.

So that means she hadn't suffered from depression and been struggling with the job personally? Ok then. Other people's perceptions of her means they know what was going on inside? Ok then.

A lot of depressed people, and in my experience, some alcoholics, maintain a front to cover their problems.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

So that means she hadn't suffered from depression and been struggling with the job personally? Ok then. Other people's perceptions of her means they know what was going on inside? Ok then.

A lot of depressed people, and in my experience, some alcoholics, maintain a front to cover their problems.

dont generalise not all depressed people are the same.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

shes thretaneing violence, as did james, you condoned it.

Where?

Originally Posted by the truth

this thread is about the vile dee and her abusive bullying and threats of violence to others.

Correction, this thread is about Dee and her time on benefits.

Originally Posted by the truth

you support violence against men

Another thread entirely.

Originally Posted by the truth

so its clear to see why you support dee.

I haven't said I support Dee.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

dont generalise not all depressed people are the same.

I never generalised. Try processing information before trying to engage in a debate.

"A lot of" "in my experience" are not generalisations.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I never generalised. Try processing information before trying to engage in a debate.

You did, youre in denial and thats not a river in eqypt

[Marsh.]

"A lot of" and "in my experience" are not generalisations.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

So that means she hadn't suffered from depression and been struggling with the job personally? Ok then. Other people's perceptions of her means they know what was going on inside? Ok then.

A lot of depressed people, and in my experience, some alcoholics, maintain a front to cover their problems.

So why didn't she carry on maintaining that front and get another job to cope with?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

So why didn't she carry on maintaining that front and get another job to cope with?

exactly.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

So why didn't she carry on maintaining that front and get another job to cope with?

Why did I wait three years to go to the doctor's to get treated and then not continue on for another three years suffering in silence?

[the truth]

funny how she could also afford to chain smoke too

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

funny how she could also afford to chain smoke too

And some people spend benefit money on gifts and chocolate and tea and any number of other items that aren't necessary. Bastards!

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

And some people spend benefit money on gifts and chocolate and tea and any number of other items that aren't necessary. Bastards!

you said bastards? strange way to describe people on benefits? its very wasteful though to squander it on cancer sticks and garbage foods.

[ozzyshaggah]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I had no knowledge of her before she entered the house, and I can't be bothered to look into her story. My judgement of her character is based on what I see there, and I'm not a fan - I will leave it at that.

same

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Your experience doesn't really help us. Anyone can say anything on here.

I could announce on here that I was faking depression and did it just like dee did, and then I could feign outrage at a remark from you to me.

We can only discuss what we know. Your personal anecdotes are as much evidence as mine would be. i.e zero.

No, no. You're missing my point.

Neither of us can prove or say categorically anything about Dee or her illness. Whether she was faking or not.

However when you say "Dee can't be depressed because of x, y and z" then I CAN interject and say "Actually it is possible and common to be depressed even with x, y and z".

Do you see the difference? I hope that helps clear up any confusion.

[Barry Goosey]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

So you decided to randomly come into a thread and insult me for no obvious reason?

Ok. All the best.

I didn't pick up on the depression thing as being a real issue just assumed itwas banter, sorry if I actually offended you it was not meant that way

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Barry Goosey

I didn't pick up on the depression thing as being a real issue just assumed itwas banter, sorry if I actually offended you it was not meant that way

Thank you for your apology. Accepted.

[Barry Goosey]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Thank you for your apology. Accepted.

Cheers....walking off sheepishly now lol

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

No, no. You're missing my point.

Neither of us can prove or say categorically anything about Dee or her illness. Whether she was faking or not.

However when you say "Dee can't be depressed because of x, y and z" then I CAN interject and say "Actually it is possible and common to be depressed even with x, y and z".

Do you see the difference? I hope that helps clear up any confusion.

And then I can choose not to believe you because you are just an anonymous poster on an internet forum.

Anecdotes on a forum aren't evidence of anything. They are just a lazy way of debating.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

And then I can choose not to believe you because you are just an anonymous poster on an internet forum.

Anecdotes on a forum aren't evidence of anything. They are just a lazy way of debating.

You don't have to take my anecdote. A bit of research and common sense tells you that there are no set rules with anything.

Believe me or don't believe me, I couldn't care less. Facts are, generalisations to prove a point about someone we don't know do not work.

A lazy way of debating is saying "Depressed people don't do this or that" as though there is a set pattern of behaviour/symptoms/events. There aren't.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

You don't have to take my anecdote. A bit of research and common sense tells you that there are no set rules with anything.

Believe me or don't believe me, I couldn't care less. Facts are, generalisations to prove a point about someone we don't know do not work.

A lazy way of debating is saying "Depressed people don't do this or that" as though there is a set pattern of behaviour/symptoms/events. There aren't.

All I pointed out is that Dee only went on the sick with depression after she was caught for thieving.

Anyone without the obvious agenda you have would accept the causal link.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

All I pointed out is that Dee only went on the sick with depression after she was caught for thieving.

And using it as proof that she isn't depressed. I then used an example of people who struggle to live with the depression for a while before getting diagnosed as a counter argument that it is possible and therefore not evidence she was a fake.

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Anyone without the obvious agenda you have would accept the causal link.

What agenda would that be? Pointing out some of the erroneous things being claimed about a very real illness?

[kistar]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

People with depression do not go on the piss in magaluf. lol

Dumbfounded by this remark , especially knowing that depression can be a very underlying undiagnosed illness that people learn to manage at some level , also in a sea of uncertainty and lack of self belief or belief in anything much sometimes you go along with stuff because you don't have the energy to say no.I'm guessing the law of averages would suggest there would definitely be people who are depressed in Magaluf right this minute.