[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Hoping its a YES, but think it will be NO

What ever happens, we all have to learn to live with it.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Josy

Hearing some rumours that it's kicking Off in Glasgow between yes and no voters

Better hope Alex doesn't borrow those cannon off boris...

[James]

I don't like the energy of this debate. Edit: I mean in Scotland and not on here, haha.

[James]

I don't want the United Kingdom to become a foreign country to Scotland, with all that would entail.

Also this idea that is being put about in certain quarters that a Scottish government would be more left-wing because that is how Scotland votes now is wrong. An independent government would have responsibility over every policy area like immigration, defence and the economy. I think it would get more parochial and inward-looking. Scotland is actually a more conservative, in the true sense of the word, and less cosmopolitan than England.

[Marsh.]

They'll vote yes then in 5 years they'll be begging for us to take them back.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by James

I don't want the United Kingdom to become a foreign country to Scotland, with all that would entail.

Also this idea that is being put about in certain quarters that a Scottish government would be more left-wing because that is how Scotland votes now is wrong. An independent government would have responsibility over every policy area like immigration, defence and the economy. I think it would get more parochial and inward-looking. Scotland is actually a more conservative, in the true sense of the word, and less cosmopolitan than England.

Very wise James... He's the pied piper, put has all the rat's in his pocket.

'At first sight, Rupert Murdoch and Alex Salmond do not make obvious bedfellows. Murdoch is the right-wing media mogul whose outlets, from the News of the World to Fox News, slap down progressive policy across the world. Salmond is the visionary leader promising a more socialist society for Scotland if it can break free of the rest of the UK.

But Murdoch's trip to Scotland last week was just the latest stage in a long friendship between the two men, in which back-room efforts to help Murdoch's business goals coincide with favourable media coverage.

Salmond enjoys this type of relationship with several wealthy right-wing figures from across the world. He "called in" a golf course for Donald Trump above the wishes of local residents. He accepted donations from Stagecoach boss Brian Souter shortly before changing SNP policy on bus regulation. The list goes on.'

http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2014...lmond-s-indepe

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by James

I don't like the energy of this debate. Edit: I mean in Scotland and not on here, haha.

You're joking? I'm in awe of my fellow countrymen! Never have I seen this country so engaged in political debate! People are rising up and showing an interest in the future of our country.. Yes or no, the majority have an opinion; that to me is fantastic! And regardless if what the media report, all in all it's been a peaceful, energetic campaign!

[Novo]

Someone will be murdered tomorrow at some point, I'm convinced

[James]

I think I was basing that on the Channel 4 debate thing I saw earlier. It was getting me a bit wound up.

People are so engaged because it is such a big decision. When it goes back to normal elections it will be back to apathy for a lot of people.

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

They'll vote yes then in 5 years they'll be begging for us to take them back.

I give it a year max before they realise they ****ed up

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by James

I think I was basing that on the Channel 4 debate thing I saw earlier. It was getting me a bit wound up.

People are so engaged because it is such a big decision. When it goes back to normal elections it will be back to apathy for a lot of people.

Nope, if we get our independence, apathy will be a thing of the past. Our voices will actually mean something and we'll vote for the governments and policies we want.

[the truth]

would devo max to the jocks disadvantage the welsh and english too much?

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

I give it a year max before they realise they ****ed up

****ed up in what way?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Lee.

****ed up in what way?

he doesnt know he was just after attention

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by the truth

would devo max to the jocks disadvantage the welsh and english too much?

Nobody really knows what devo max is..

[Kizzy]

I do, it's total economic control.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I do, it's total economic control.

Including the "dwindling" oil?

[Firewire]

I'm ready for the dramz

[Firewire]

Hope it's no just to see the meltdowns of the yes voters, love it

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Firewire

Hope it's no just to see the meltdowns of the yes voters, love it

That's your reason for wanting it to be a no? Is that your only reason? I'll admit I'll be gutted, and there will be tears.. I'm not sure a "meltdown" will happen though.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Lee.

Including the "dwindling" oil?

Yep, and I would suspect it isn't dwindling at all..

Having said that there's a lot of decommissioning going on... :/

'Decommissioning North Sea oil and gas facilities is projected to cost between Ł30 - 35 bn between 2010 and 2040.
Decommissioning is a relatively new business in the North Sea and so operators and contractors need to work together in partnership to promote knowledge transfer and minimise risk.
We are building relationships and facing challenges together.'

http://www.decomnorthsea.com/main_about.cfm?main_ID=3

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Lee.

That's your reason for wanting it to be a no? Is that your only reason? I'll admit I'll be gutted, and there will be tears.. I'm not sure a "meltdown" will happen though.

Absolutely not, I have legitimate reasons. One being the fact I have the idea of living in England once I have my degree. I have more.

[lostalex]

It will be NO. it's already decided. Not just by westminster, but also by the EU and the US, think of the can of worms it would open if Scotland became independent. It won't be allowed. period.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Yep, and I would suspect it isn't dwindling at all..

No it's not.. WM knows it, the oil industry know it, we all know it.. It will not be included in our new super duper powers. Guaranteed

Originally Posted by Firewire

Absolutely not, I have legitimate reasons. One being the fact I have the idea of living in England once I have my degree. I have more.

Why would Scotland being independent stop you living in England?

Originally Posted by lostalex

It will be NO. it's already decided. Not just by westminster, but also by the EU and the US, think of the can of worms it would open if Scotland became independent. It won't be allowed. period.

This is what worries me

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Lee.

Why would Scotland being independent stop you living in England?

Because I wouldn't want to be a foreigner?

I don't care about scotland's future, I care about mine. It has a brighter outlook as part of the UK.