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Jose Mourinho · 16-11-2014, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Time slots always make a difference to every act.

And Ben and Lola's songs was re-released in the 80's so they do count, unless the song that Fleur had went back in time and made itself an 80's song then it's not really following the theme at all, especially when you put it alongside the Big Band theme as well.

And I didn't like Andrea's performance that week, but his followed the themes more than Fleur has, he has a manic style of performing which can be exciting to watch, and vocally his way stronger.

As I said people wanna see what they want to see in Fleur because she's reasonably pretty, and the fact that she is the only black girl left in the competition which this Forum and DS always has a lot of people rooting for the black girls on these shows just for the sake of it.

And it's not me being racist before anyone tries to say otherwise, it's just an observation over the years between the two forums that black girls get big fandoms just because of their gender and the colour of their skin.

I am see you are of much anger. We are do 2014 we are not black, white or brown.. we are not colors we are one thing.. HUMAN.. never think to this level no matter how much it may seem. One must not think to that level.. You are must break out of that. I don't see colors..I only see humans.

Mystic Mock · 16-11-2014, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jose Mourinho

I am see you are of much anger. We are do 2014 we are not black, white or brown.. we are not colors we are one thing.. HUMAN.. never think to this level no matter how much it may seem. One must not think to that level.. You are must break out of that. I don't see colors..I only see humans.

As I said I'm making observations, I support whoever I want to in whatever appearance that they come in, I have noticed though that every year on here and on DS that the black girls do get massive support blocks no matter if they are any good or not.

kirklancaster · 16-11-2014, 10:56 AM

The X-Factor - A Personal Opinion

Fleur East – This girl is the full package. She has the figure, the face, the voice, is very sexy and instantly recognisable, and has the style to become a huge star. We have not seen the best of her yet because she is still so young, but when she performs, she already looks and moves like an established star, and has huge stage presence.

If she does not win this competition I will eat my own peanut head.

Andrea Faustini – Week after week, this (thoroughly nice) man overcomes the fact that English is not his natural language and sings his heart out – no matter what style has been imposed upon him – and tonight was no exception, despite the added burden of having to sing a Gershwin American standard which is essentially a Negro spiritual written to be sung by American black singers. He is genuinely one of the best singers in the competition.

As for Cowell’s comments regarding Andrea’s ‘facial contortions’ whilst singing – what relevance has that? ‘Facial contortions’ whilst singing never detracted from the performances of legends like James Brown, Janis Joplin or even Elvis with that curled lip and occasional ‘pop eyes’ during his early days.

Lauren Platt – A very pretty young girl who is a good singer with the potential to become a very good singer. However, she is becoming something of a ‘one trick pony’ and becoming boring. In her defence, tonight, singing the classic ‘Smile’ , she was faced with an impossible task, because the song is so memorably linked with American legends such as Nat King Cole, and Lauren has not yet gained enough ‘life experience’ to be able to perform such a song with the sincerity and soul it needs. Her performance, while good, was instead merely ‘sweet’.

Ben Haenow – Ben has the ‘whole package’; he is seriously good looking, can sing, and is the near male equivalent of Fleur East in this respect. However, this week, singing another ‘Standard’ in ‘Cry Me A River’, Ben was seriously out of his depth. He struggled from the onset like a ‘fish out of water’ – it was as if someone had forced PeeWee Herman to sing ‘Dock of The Bay’.

Although Michael Buble made this song his own, Robbie Williams - not the greatest singer in the world - got away with his version because he sang it with ‘conviction’ – something Ben lacked. It seemed as though Ben didn’t really want to sing the song, or had no confidence in his ability to sing it- either way, he lacked conviction, and his performance suffered as a result, perhaps fatally if Stevi’s public support holds.

Only The Young - The smaller ‘Joey Essex’ type boy singer and the ‘Blond’ girl are the two weakest singers and the worst dancers – as this week’s performance proved, because the other two members sang better and danced with more gusto and natural rhythm.

All in all though, it did not matter, because once again this group very cleverly chose a well known, well loved song which was delivered with gusto in the ‘fun’ style OTY are making their own, and this – once again – had the audience (and I’m sure viewers) tapping their feet and singing along.

There is some really great music around currently, and some really great singers, but current ‘Pop’ is increasingly becoming ‘worthy’, taking itself too seriously and the ‘fun’ element has been missing over recent years. OTY won’t win the X Factor, but they will fill a niche in the market and have ample success.

Jay James – Usually a decent singer, but this week – as with so many of the others – he was completely out of his depth. Big Band/Swing is not his genre, and Frank Sinatra’s classic ‘New York’ New York’ was definitely the last song he should have attempted even if it was, because the song was never intended to be sung in a weak English accent.

As it was, Jay struggled, never sang with any conviction or oomph, and in my opinion this was his very worst performance. Throughout his performance, I kept waiting for him to lift the song and inject some power into it, but it never materialised.

Stereokicks – These are not a great ‘boy’ band, and have not the potential to become great, and perhaps they are only still in the competition because there are so many of them they are virtually guaranteed to satisfy the diverse ‘pin up’ ideals of all the different teeny bopper girl fans out there.

This week’s performance was embarrassing to watch, because, an American classic such as ‘Mack The Knife’ which has been ‘owned’ by American music legends such as Bobby Darin, Louis Armstrong and Frank Sinatra, was never, ever, going to be well performed in an English accent by a bunch of weak-voiced English boys who are barely out of puberty.

I’m sorry, but it’s true. It’s akin to when Brit Film Production Companies have attempted to produce certain thrillers in the American idiom – somehow Charles Dance’s plummy accent will always come off second best to the Humphrey Bogarts, Bruce Willis’s and Harison Fords of the movie world – no matter how good an actor he may be.

Stevi – A ‘wannabe’, who because of his personality, and the British fondness for adopting underdogs and losers, has become a ‘Nearly Am’ – despite an obvious lack of talent.

Stevi’s best performance was the piece from ‘Phantom of The Opera’ because it allowed him to utilise the skills gleaned during his theatrical training – slight as those skills are.

Every other week, however, neither Stevi’s personality, his undoubted enthusiasm, nor the increasingly elaborate sets, have been enough to compensate for the fact that he is – almost – devoid of singing ability, and I feel that this latest performance is probably his ‘swan-song’.

GoldHeart · 16-11-2014, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Time slots always make a difference to every act.

And Ben and Lola's songs was re-released in the 80's so they do count, unless the song that Fleur had went back in time and made itself an 80's song then it's not really following the theme at all, especially when you put it alongside the Big Band theme as well.

And I didn't like Andrea's performance that week, but his followed the themes more than Fleur has, he has a manic style of performing which can be exciting to watch, and vocally his way stronger.

As I said people wanna see what they want to see in Fleur because she's reasonably pretty, and the fact that she is the only black girl left in the competition which this Forum and DS always has a lot of people rooting for the black girls on these shows just for the sake of it.

And it's not me being racist before anyone tries to say otherwise, it's just an observation over the years between the two forums that black girls get big fandoms just because of their gender and the colour of their skin.

once again time slots make no difference!!!
people have their favs and will keep voting regardless of what order they sing in . but keep thinking it makes a difference if you like even though plenty of people vote for an act whether they've heard them sing or not because they support them

Fleur is soo much better than OTY if anything they're overrated and its because kids like them and its same with sk all the teenagers voting

one minute you think Lauren is hated by housewives involving her race & gender
then the next you think Fleur is supported just because of her gender & race

that makes no sense
people like Fleur because she's an all rounder and amazing
it shouldn't matter what her skin colour is
but well done for stating the obvious about her being the only black girl left as if we didn't notice

and how come Stephanie didn't get the same support then?? infact it was the opposite and nobody bothered voting for her in the end and she even got nasty hate mail and she was a nice person so you've contradicted yourself

kirklancaster · 16-11-2014, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart

once again time slots make no difference!!!
people have their favs and will keep voting regardless of what order they sing in . but keep thinking it makes a difference if you like even though plenty of people vote for an act whether they've heard them sing or not because they support them

Fleur is soo much better than OTY if anything they're overrated and its because kids like them and its same with sk all the teenagers voting

one minute you think Lauren is hated by housewives involving her race & gender
then the next you think Fleur is supported just because of her gender & race

that makes no sense
people like Fleur because she's an all rounder and amazing
it shouldn't matter what her skin colour is
but well done for stating the obvious about her being the only black girl left as if we didn't notice

and how come Stephanie didn't get the same support then?? infact it was the opposite and nobody bothered voting for her in the end and she even got nasty hate mail and she was a nice person so you've contradicted yourself

Good points GoldHeart.

Mystic Mock · 16-11-2014, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart

once again time slots make no difference!!!
people have their favs and will keep voting regardless of what order they sing in . but keep thinking it makes a difference if you like even though plenty of people vote for an act whether they've heard them sing or not because they support them

Fleur is soo much better than OTY if anything they're overrated and its because kids like them and its same with sk all the teenagers voting

one minute you think Lauren is hated by housewives involving her race & gender
then the next you think Fleur is supported just because of her gender & race

that makes no sense
people like Fleur because she's an all rounder and amazing
it shouldn't matter what her skin colour is
but well done for stating the obvious about her being the only black girl left as if we didn't notice

and how come Stephanie didn't get the same support then?? infact it was the opposite and nobody bothered voting for her in the end and she even got nasty hate mail and she was a nice person so you've contradicted yourself

What's helping Fleur over Lauren in support (away from time slots which do matter otherwise Lauren would actually be stuck on late and Fleur on early) is that most of the voters are older white female and who are the older white females gonna be more jealous of? A young pretty white girl or an older pretty black girl? And while I don't think Fleur is all that she is still way better than Stephanie who was car crash TV.

But yes time slots do count otherwise acts like Stevi, Fleur, and Stereo Kicks would actually perform earlier than acts like Lauren and Jay in some weeks.

Jose Mourinho · 17-11-2014, 12:18 AM

I am now use my biggest most experience opinion to this show, for what we see tonight.. OK Jay, gone.. it was never going to win.. this is perhaps why we are still see the Stevi on the Xfactor. Perhaps this Stevi shall go long way, we are see Xfactor in many years unanimously we shall all agree they not change the format much. We are do come to expect the obvious. Perhaps now it slight changing to obvious, no it is not about the singing. For Jay better singer of the Stevi, but yes but are still bad. It was a nothing week. We are to be honest.

I am come for make my inside of this situation. I am to think stilll of the Lauren and Andrea for final. Next week shall probably Stereokick and the Stevi to the bottom. I am sure to most are do share same thinking of me.

Who are to become elimination I am guess the order to now.

1. Lauren
2.Andrea
3.Ben
4. OTY
5. Fleur
6. Stereo
7. Stevi

I am think to this is what shall happen. For some reasons it are be justification.

Vanessa · 17-11-2014, 03:18 AM

Andrea Faustini – Week after week, this (thoroughly nice) man overcomes the fact that English is not his natural language and sings his heart out – no matter what style has been imposed upon him – and tonight was no exception, despite the added burden of having to sing a Gershwin American standard which is essentially a Negro spiritual written to be sung by American black singers. He is genuinely one of the best singers in the competition.

As for Cowell’s comments regarding Andrea’s ‘facial contortions’ whilst singing – what relevance has that? ‘Facial contortions’ whilst singing never detracted from the performances of legends like James Brown, Janis Joplin or even Elvis with that curled lip and occasional ‘pop eyes’ during his early days.

Jose Mourinho · 20-11-2014, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa

Andrea Faustini – Week after week, this (thoroughly nice) man overcomes the fact that English is not his natural language and sings his heart out – no matter what style has been imposed upon him – and tonight was no exception, despite the added burden of having to sing a Gershwin American standard which is essentially a Negro spiritual written to be sung by American black singers. He is genuinely one of the best singers in the competition.

As for Cowell’s comments regarding Andrea’s ‘facial contortions’ whilst singing – what relevance has that? ‘Facial contortions’ whilst singing never detracted from the performances of legends like James Brown, Janis Joplin or even Elvis with that curled lip and occasional ‘pop eyes’ during his early days.

Since I am do millionaire I Jose, have infact hired translator for help with English writing. He are now to do help for make post to forum.

I very much agree with what was written here regarding Andrea, I dont actually believe Simon was having a bad day I actually think he truly has his heart set on Stereokicks winning and it appears he is pulling out all the stops to get his wish. Notice how he always stands up to applaud them when they finish performing even though, lets be honest here, 99.9% of the time their performances resemble/sound like a 50 car pile up on the M25. Notice how he always grins like a cheshire cat when SK are told they are through to the next round, last week in particular, his body language after SK got through said it all. I have no doubt in my mind Cowell is trying to bring down Andrea too, listen, if Andrea does not win there is no way in hell Cowell is going to give him a contract, and I really think Cowell does not want Andrea to win and I dont think we have seen the last of the silly comments designed to try and upset the voting. I actually think Andrea can sell records, just not to Cowell's preferred teen - girl market. I have no idea why he loves the teen girl market so much he appears to be bordering on paedophilia if you ask me.

Vanessa · 20-11-2014, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jose Mourinho

Since I am do millionaire I Jose, have infact hired translator for help with English writing. He are now to do help for make post to forum.

I very much agree with what was written here regarding Andrea, I dont actually believe Simon was having a bad day I actually think he truly has his heart set on Stereokicks winning and it appears he is pulling out all the stops to get his wish. Notice how he always stands up to applaud them when they finish performing even though, lets be honest here, 99.9% of the time their performances resemble/sound like a 50 car pile up on the M25. Notice how he always grins like a cheshire cat when SK are told they are through to the next round, last week in particular, his body language after SK got through said it all. I have no doubt in my mind Cowell is trying to bring down Andrea too, listen, if Andrea does not win there is no way in hell Cowell is going to give him a contract, and I really think Cowell does not want Andrea to win and I dont think we have seen the last of the silly comments designed to try and upset the voting. I actually think Andrea can sell records, just not to Cowell's preferred teen - girl market. I have no idea why he loves the teen girl market so much he appears to be bordering on paedophilia if you ask me.

Andrea is better of as runner up. Then he can get signed by a good label.

Jose Mourinho · 20-11-2014, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa

Andrea is better of as runner up. Then he can get signed by a good label.

The good thing is Andrea has a lot of celebrity support, usually when this happens, that person goes on to win, 9 times out of 10 that act is usually the most talented and this case is no different, I think he will no doubt make it to the final. Not so sure if he will win it though, one thing is for sure, Simon is going to do everything he can to stop him from getting to the final, first it was Paul and now it seems it is Andrea he wants out.

Vanessa · 20-11-2014, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jose Mourinho

The good thing is Andrea has a lot of celebrity support, usually when this happens, that person goes on to win, 9 times out of 10 that act is usually the most talented and this case is no different, I think he will no doubt make it to the final. Not so sure if he will win it though, one thing is for sure, Simon is going to do everything he can to stop him from getting to the final, first it was Paul and now it seems it is Andrea he wants out.

He will get signed anyway, i'm sure of it.

Jose Mourinho · 20-11-2014, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa

He will get signed anyway, i'm sure of it.

yep no doubt about that he has an really good recording voice as well as great technique. Just hope he dont' end up in Cowell's hands as the music Cowell will make him release really wont do him any justice.

Vanessa · 20-11-2014, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jose Mourinho

yep no doubt about that he has an really good recording voice as well as great technique. Just hope he dont' end up in Cowell's hands as the music Cowell will make him release really wont do him any justice.

Same! Simon does not understand him at all.

Jose Mourinho · 20-11-2014, 08:07 PM

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Same! Simon does not understand him at all.

I think 20 years from now Simon is gonna get done for molesting under age girls. I don't know why I find his obsession with that genre to be quite uncomfortable theres just something about him I don't trust. He has that look about him and the sound of his voice makes me cringe. He is friends with that other paedo Max Clifford, you read it here first!!!Also why does is he always hangin out with someone from 1D.... bit strange for a man in his mid 50s.

Marsh. · 20-11-2014, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jose Mourinho

I think 20 years from now Simon is gonna get done for molesting under age girls.

Jose Mourinho · 20-11-2014, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

Hes friends wit a paedo.. he has an obsession with the teen girl market, hell I even seen him at 1d shows, on youtube that is.. hes always hanging around 1d members... he speaks like that guy that noone ever saw in inspector gadget, he freaks me out if I had time I would investigate him myself.

Marsh. · 20-11-2014, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jose Mourinho

Hes friends wit a paedo.. he has an obsession with the teen girl market, hell I even seen him at 1d shows, on youtube that is.. hes always hanging around 1d members... he speaks like that guy that noone ever saw in inspector gadget, he freaks me out if I had time I would investigate him myself.

We're all guilty of what our friends/acquaintances do?

Of course he hangs around 1D, they're on his label and the teen girl market makes him his millions.

Jose Mourinho · 20-11-2014, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

We're all guilty of what our friends/acquaintances do?

Of course he hangs around 1D, they're on his label and the teen girl market makes him his millions.

TBH if one of my close friends was a paedo, id know about it. And do something about it. Im sure he knew this ages ago.

A man in his mid 50s hanging around boys barely past their teens? regardless of whether they are on his label or not I never saw Louis Walsh hanging around with westlife...and when I say "hanging around" I mean that in a non business way as we have seen many times. Thanks.

Marsh. · 20-11-2014, 08:39 PM

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TBH if one of my close friends was a paedo, id know about it. And do something about it.

Yeah, of course you would.

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I never saw Louis Walsh hanging around with westlife...

You never looked hard enough.

Jose Mourinho · 20-11-2014, 08:42 PM

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Yeah, of course you would.

You never looked hard enough.

Yes I really would know I know my friends like the back of my hand.

You are more than welcome to show me vids or pics or articles where Louis or any other manager of a boyband is partying or onstage with the group while they are performing..

Thanks.