[GoldHeart]

Bye Kendra it was nice knowing you NOT!!!
half my wish came true and she got eliminated in the double

its ashame sweet kind Tinchy had to suffer
he was the nicest guy there !! he didn't get enough air time and was soo cool about everything and was friendly with the whole group
he should of been in the final its not his fault he got over shadowed by domineering idiots!!! and editing always pushed him in the background
like he wasn't doing much but over the past few days we've seen alot more of him and seen just how sincere and lovely he is he never said a bad word about anyone and was always supportive

and he always tried his best at any task /challenge and succeeded without breaking a sweat so think how amazing it would of been if we saw him do more trials /challenges

[GoldHeart]

and best of all she was eliminated before edwina !!!

[waterhog]

don't hate me for this - but i think kendra is changing - she has grown on me from when she entered to leaving - self correction - the best correction.

[kirklancaster]

She has been accused of everything from being 'fake', 'vacuous' and 'vain' to prostitute' and 'slut', yet I couldn't help but notice during the post finale interviews, that Kendra was the only woman who was plainly and modestly dressed, and didn't wear Ł2,000 worth of cosmetics - powder, false eyelashes and all.

I also find it telling that during her stint in the jungle, Kendra stated quite plainly that she was "doing this" for her "children's financial future".

Whatever she has done in her past which may have been 'morally questionable' to those who reside in 'glass houses', pales into insignificance when compared to what Edwina (who I also like) did with John Major, so I think it's time 'cut' this young American woman some slack.

[waterhog]

well said kirkyy boy.

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

She has been accused of everything from being 'fake', 'vacuous' and 'vain' to prostitute' and 'slut', yet I couldn't help but notice during the post finale interviews, that Kendra was the only woman who was plainly and modestly dressed, and didn't wear Ł2,000 worth of cosmetics - powder, false eyelashes and all.

I also find it telling that during her stint bin the jungle, Kendra stated quite plainly that she was "doing this" for her "children's financial future".

Whatever she has done in her past which may have been 'morally questionable' to those who reside in 'glass houses', pales into insignificance when compared to what Edwina (who I also like) did with John Major, so I think it's time 'cut' this young American woman some slack.

I just don't get the hate directed towards this girl.
Why is she getting so much criticism ?.
They were ALL on a reality show just by being in there & Edwina's little digs at her in her interview was so two-faced.

[GoldHeart]

its like we're all watching a different person then because you lot dont understand the dislike of her well i dont understand all the praise she gets!!!

i dont care if she reckons she's doing it for her children she wasn't the only parent in the jungle plus its a cop out answer when she's already making money in america!!

what will her children think when they hear about how she use to be a stripper and make what was it $500 just by sitting and talking to a guy she acts as if she's proud of her lifestyle!!!

and all she seems to do now is make money off a ridiculous reality show about herself . i dont even care that she's a playboy model or use to be a stripper but her attitude stinks!! she came across a very selfish person unlikable person

everytime she spoke it was always about herself!!!! I THIS ME THIS MY THIS

she could of turned it around by acting differently but she didn't and has alot of anger issues too i dont care what anyone else says

[waterhog]

this could be a game plan - after all she is a reality tv star - if her formula works - then why we she change.

i i i i i i i i i i i i i there is no i in eye ? think about it kendra.

[kirklancaster]

[QUOTE=GoldHeart;7410560]
"i dont care if she reckons she's doing it for her children she wasn't the only parent in the jungle plus its a cop out answer when she's already making money in america!! "

I don't understand what point you're making here? The fact that there were other parents in the jungle has no relevance on Kendra taking part in the show because the fee will help safeguard her children's future.

As for 'cop out answer' - Maybe you could explain this? You state that "She's already making money in America", so what do you propose her motives for being in the show are? If it isn't money (like all the other 'Celebrities') then it has to be fame - Right?

Wrong. With two long running 'Reality TV' shows to her credit, Kendra was already famous in the UK prior to appearing, and has no need, therefore, to do so in order to raise public awareness of her, or to increase her 'marquee value'.

I love Foggy and am pleased he won, but like Jimmy, he had more reason to appear on the show to raise his 'public awareness' and 'marquee value' than Kendra did.

"what will her children think when they hear about how she use to be a stripper and make what was it $500 just by sitting and talking to a guy she acts as if she's proud of her lifestyle!!! "

There is a wealth of difference between "being proud" of something and "not being ashamed of it", and Kendra is a young, independent 'modern woman' who sees nothing wrong in her having been a 'PlayBoy Bunny', 'Stripper', or in anything else she has done in her life.

Quite a lot of the famous female Pop, Movie and TV 'Stars' we all accept and like have made sex tapes, appeared in soft and hard porn movies, or even worked as prostitutes during the early stages of their careers when they were young, naive, and 'trying to make it'.

So why single this girl out who maintains - quite rightly in my opinion - that she has never been a prostitute?

You seem to indict Kendra because: "she use to be a stripper and make what was it $500 just by sitting and talking to a guy :bored" .

"Stripping" and "Sitting next to a guy talking" -- Woah! What depravity!. What sordid filth!

What utter hypocritical double standards.

Whilst castigating Kendra for the above, you conveniently make no mention of Edwina's truly disgusting past in having had a clandestine, sordid, 4 year long sexual relationship with Prime Minister John Major while both were married, both were members of the UK Government and both paid out of taxpayers money.

Nor do you condemn her for 'acting as if she's proud of that past' for her many appearances on British TV chat shows, where she was paid to plug the book which she was paid to write, and in which she unashamedly first exposed her sordid affair with John Major for a huge sum of money, when she could have been shame-faced and kept quiet about it all.

Nor do you condemn the fact that she 'seemed proud of what she'd done' when she made another ton of money when she sold the serial rights to her 'diary' to the 'Times' thereby shamelessly advertising her sordid little affair to even more millions of people for yet more filthy lucre.

Has such a shameful past prevented Edwina seeking and securing a 'post political career' place in the public spotlight? Has it stopped her enjoying all the riches and fame such celebrity has given her? No? Then why shouldn't Kendra enjoy the same benefits when anything she may or may not have done, is verging on 'puritanical' in comparison?

So when you ask; "what will her children think" I would say; "Why should they think anything? " What do Edwina's or Major's children think?

Does our Royal Family spend sleepless nights fretting that their immense wealth, privilege and status originated because their robber baron ancestors killed peasant farmers and seized their 'land, goods and chattels' by the power of the sword?

Do the Kennedy's care a jot that their immense wealth, privilege and status originated from a gun toting, booze running prohibition gangster of a Father and Grandfather?

No, I don't believe Kendra has anything to be ashamed of and I applaud her for her stance on this, and this being so, I should think that her children will not care a jot for any reasons why they have a privileged lifestyle - only grateful to their hard-working mother that they have.

Kendra is an American, and American's are loud and brash and OTT by 'British' standards, so if she is not everyone's 'cup of tea' I can understand that, but I much prefer her openness to Edwina's sly, knowing, game-playing, and her snide thinly veiled back-stabbing comments during interviews.

I cannot see where Kendra has been anything other than an interesting and enjoyable 'camp-mate' and I can't see how anything which she may have done in her life validates such intense hatred of her, so as subjective as TV shows are, our views of what we have watched are so diametrically opposed, I guess we must have been watching two different shows.

[GoldHeart]

[QUOTE=kirklancaster;7411464]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

"i dont care if she reckons she's doing it for her children she wasn't the only parent in the jungle plus its a cop out answer when she's already making money in america!! "

I don't understand what point you're making here? The fact that there were other parents in the jungle has no relevance on Kendra taking part in the show because the fee will help safeguard her children's future.

As for 'cop out answer' - Maybe you could explain this? You state that "She's already making money in America", so what do you propose her motives for being in the show are? If it isn't money (like all the other 'Celebrities') then it has to be fame - Right?

Wrong. With two long running 'Reality TV' shows to her credit, Kendra was already famous in the UK prior to appearing, and has no need, therefore, to do so in order to raise public awareness of her, or to increase her 'marquee value'.

I love Foggy and am pleased he won, but like Jimmy, he had more reason to appear on the show to raise his 'public awareness' and 'marquee value' than Kendra did.

"what will her children think when they hear about how she use to be a stripper and make what was it $500 just by sitting and talking to a guy she acts as if she's proud of her lifestyle!!! "

There is a wealth of difference between "being proud" of something and "not being ashamed of it", and Kendra is a young, independent 'modern woman' who sees nothing wrong in her having been a 'PlayBoy Bunny', 'Stripper', or in anything else she has done in her life.

Quite a lot of the famous female Pop, Movie and TV 'Stars' we all accept and like have made sex tapes, appeared in soft and hard porn movies, or even worked as prostitutes during the early stages of their careers when they were young, naive, and 'trying to make it'.

So why single this girl out who maintains - quite rightly in my opinion - that she has never been a prostitute?

You seem to indict Kendra because: "she use to be a stripper and make what was it $500 just by sitting and talking to a guy :bored" .

"Stripping" and "Sitting next to a guy talking" -- Woah! What depravity!. What sordid filth!

What utter hypocritical double standards.

Whilst castigating Kendra for the above, you conveniently make no mention of Edwina's truly disgusting past in having had a clandestine, sordid, 4 year long sexual relationship with Prime Minister John Major while both were married, both were members of the UK Government and both paid out of taxpayers money.

Nor do you condemn her for 'acting as if she's proud of that past' for her many appearances on British TV chat shows, where she was paid to plug the book which she was paid to write, and in which she unashamedly first exposed her sordid affair with John Major for a huge sum of money, when she could have been shame-faced and kept quiet about it all.

Nor do you condemn the fact that she 'seemed proud of what she'd done' when she made another ton of money when she sold the serial rights to her 'diary' to the 'Times' thereby shamelessly advertising her sordid little affair to even more millions of people for yet more filthy lucre.

Has such a shameful past prevented Edwina seeking and securing a 'post political career' place in the public spotlight? Has it stopped her enjoying all the riches and fame such celebrity has given her? No? Then why shouldn't Kendra enjoy the same benefits when anything she may or may not have done, is verging on 'puritanical' in comparison?

So when you ask; "what will her children think" I would say; "Why should they think anything? " What do Edwina's or Major's children think?

Does our Royal Family spend sleepless nights fretting that their immense wealth, privilege and status originated because their robber baron ancestors killed peasant farmers and seized their 'land, goods and chattels' by the power of the sword?

Do the Kennedy's care a jot that their immense wealth, privilege and status originated from a gun toting, booze running prohibition gangster of a Father and Grandfather?

No, I don't believe Kendra has anything to be ashamed of and I applaud her for her stance on this, and this being so, I should think that her children will not care a jot for any reasons why they have a privileged lifestyle - only grateful to their hard-working mother that they have.

Kendra is an American, and American's are loud and brash and OTT by 'British' standards, so if she is not everyone's 'cup of tea' I can understand that, but I much prefer her openness to Edwina's sly, knowing, game-playing, and her snide thinly veiled back-stabbing comments during interviews.

I cannot see where Kendra has been anything other than an interesting and enjoyable 'camp-mate' and I can't see how anything which she may have done in her life validates such intense hatred of her, so as subjective as TV shows are, our views of what we have watched are so diametrically opposed, I guess we must have been watching two different shows.

that rant of your's you've completely twisted everything i was saying

of course pretty much most actors / singers etc have a past /skeletons in their closet and so on but Kendra's whole Attitude is very offputting
and her approach to life and her "career" isnt real its more like a fantasy and she's in her own bubble she needs a reality check


she wasn't likable and she had issues and was very self obsessed
like she was the only person in the jungle
and i could never tell if she was being genuine or whether she was just playing up to the camera's
even Michael Burke said she's good at "reality tv"

and once again i dont care that she was a playboy model /stripper thats her choice to do what she wants but its her personality which made me dislike her and i dont think she will ever change

and i never condoned Edwina's affair i was never a fan of Edwinas' to start with infact but i gained respect to her because in the jungle she came across well and was a team player and threw herself into everything .

but your contradicting yourself because everyone has made mistakes its life

but its Kendra's attitude like she's better than everyone else when she has baggage too !!! that's my point!!! if she was a nice person i wouldn't be that bothered about her lifestyle

and in the present day Edwina seems alot more nicer and normal compared to Kendra who throws a tantrum like an attention seeker

[kirklancaster]

[QUOTE=GoldHeart;7411505]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

"that rant of your's you've completely twisted everything i was saying."
.
How is it not a 'rant' when you state an opinion which attacks Kendra, but a 'rant' when I state a counter point of view which defends her? And how have I 'twisted everything you were saying'? When I have actually quoted and emboldened what you said?

"she wasn't likable and she had issues and was very self obsessed
like she was the only person in the jungle and i could never tell if she was being genuine or whether she was just playing up to the camera's
even Michael Burke said she's good at "reality tv"


It's highly debatable whether Kendra was 'likable' or not - I liked her along with a lot more people on here and elsewhere. Ditto whether she 'had issues' and was 'very self obsessed' or not. Perception of someone is subjective and your view is as valid as mine.

However, I don't think that because you "could never tell if she was being genuine or whether she was just playing up to the camera's" means that she was fake because I saw no more falseness in her than any other camp-mate. and I know that a lot of viewers agree with me.

As for 'Michael Burke' saying that Kendra is 'good at "reality tv' then seeing as how this is a Reality TV show, I would consider that remark a compliment not a criticism.

Edwina? I actually am a fan of Edwina but facts are facts and again it's pointless arguing about your point of view or mine, so I suggest we just content ourselves with the fact that 'one man's meat' etc.