[Sam:)]

It doesnt bother me but is it just me or is there a lot of double standards in terms of what you can and can't say. For example, Katies "too much Americans" comment, if she had of said that about Africans or Indians she probably would have been removed immediately and definitely would be lashed out of it online and in the press.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Im glad shes not getting punished for it.

We should all be allowed to say whatever the **** we want and back in the day housemates could even say racial comments.

Im not condoning it but as a social experiment I want to see people talk as they would outside the house.

[Sam:)]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Im glad shes not getting punished for it.

We should all be allowed to say whatever the **** we want and back in the day housemates could even say racial comments.

Im not condoning it but as a social experiment I want to see people talk as they would outside the house.

Well she 100% should not be punished for it. I agree with you in the way that people are racist in the real world and there should be less inteference in terms of minor comments (Like if Katie had of said the American comment about another nationality). As long as they don't get away with being very personal or blatantly offensive (e,g, Danielle's (CBB5) **** off home comment)

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Sam:)

It doesnt bother me but is it just me or is there a lot of double standards in terms of what you can and can't say. For example, Katies "too much Americans" comment, if she had of said that about Africans or Indians she probably would have been removed immediately and definitely would be lashed out of it online and in the press.

the anti americanism has gone on for decades now, it makes me ashamaed to be british

[Northern Monkey]

Well that's what they got her in for.They don't wanna shut her down too early.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

Well that's what they got her in for.They don't wanna shut her down too early.

we were hoping for at least some thought before spouting this predictable generalized drivel

[Firewire]

"Too many Africans" and "too many Indians" has racist connotations. Saying "too many Americans" does not.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by the truth

we were hoping for at least some thought before spouting this predictable generalized drivel

What?Who's we?You mean you.
You got your period or something?
My point is valid.
If it is true that they paid top dollar for her to go on the show and cause controversy then giving her a warning on the first night for saying something as inoffensive as there being too many Americans would'nt be their best move.
BB don't wanna dumb her down before she's even started.
Imo they should leave the warnings for serious issues like racism.I don't like the woman but that was not warning worthy.Neither would saying there are too many of any nationality on the show.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Firewire

"Too many Africans" and "too many Indians" has racist connotations. Saying "too many Americans" does not.

i disagree

[Macie Lightfoot]

I think there are a lot more worrying prejudices expressed on these shows than Americans having a slightly harder time than most other housemates on a foreign edition of Big Brother.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

I think there are a lot more worrying prejudices expressed on these shows than Americans having a slightly harder time than most other housemates on a foreign edition of Big Brother.

i disagree, its just another prejudice we choose to ignore....the prejudice shown towards men and white men is ignored. dirk benedicts alcoholism and cancer indiced impotence was mocked and ignored as was the physical and mental bullying of michael madsen, or some of the choice words of jermaine jackson and his white trash comments.....all of which was ignored

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by the truth

i disagree

Well of course you would

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Sam:)

It doesnt bother me but is it just me or is there a lot of double standards in terms of what you can and can't say. For example, Katies "too much Americans" comment, if she had of said that about Africans or Indians she probably would have been removed immediately and definitely would be lashed out of it online and in the press.

Didn't you know that American people are the only types of people you can say anything against in the UK? It's stupid and rude as these people have actually got names, she should try learning them, the same for all the anti-Americans out there.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Didn't you know that American people are the only types of people you can say anything against in the UK? It's stupid and rude as these people have actually got names, she should try learning them, the same for all the anti-Americans out there.

agreed

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Firewire

Well of course you would

yes i said I disagreed with what you said because I did disagree yet I agreed with mockinator because I actually did agree.....this is how it works, simple, glad to have helped you here

[Mystic Mock]

Tbh I don't see the difference between calling someone “The African” and then someone else “The American” as they're both clearly being used in a derogatory way?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Tbh I don't see the difference between calling someone “The African” and then someone else “The American” as they're both clearly being used in a derogatory way?

it carries on and on and on and gets worse because no one makes a point to say no.....the idiotic generalizations about americans make these bigots look moronic...what was it earlier all americans and louder and more overpowering said an audience member and clueless emma willis said nothing

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by the truth

the anti americanism has gone on for decades now, it makes me ashamaed to be british

It works both ways tbh have you not watched a million American tv shows making fun of our crooked noses and gammy teeth?

Lets not act as if the Americans are some poor minority lol.

[LukeB]

oh

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by the truth

i disagree, its just another prejudice we choose to ignore....the prejudice shown towards men and white men is ignored. dirk benedicts alcoholism and cancer indiced impotence was mocked and ignored as was the physical and mental bullying of michael madsen, or some of the choice words of jermaine jackson and his white trash comments.....all of which was ignored

Again, I don't think a few Americans having a slightly more difficult time on a foreign version of Big Brother is as harrowing as the fact that a woman has been evicted first on every civilian series, that it took twelve series for a black woman to survive a head-to-head eviction, the double standards in how men and women are viewed with regards to sexuality (how many people who voted for Aaron to win do you think also voted to evict Noirin two years earlier?), and plenty of other issues with racism and sexism.

I don't know, I just find the sense of entitlement that some forum posters have about Americans is unfounded and annoying. This is a British television show and there really is no need for it to pander to the American celebrities, and this sense of entitlement and arrogance that surrounds the Americans is exactly why a lot of the Brits can't stand the Americans.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

It works both ways tbh have you not watched a million American tv shows making fun of our crooked noses and gammy teeth?

Lets not act as if the Americans are some poor minority lol.

That's normally just a joke that they like to use though, what Katie said and what a lot of the British public feel towards American people is not a joke.

A very big difference.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

Again, I don't think a few Americans having a slightly more difficult time on a foreign version of Big Brother is as harrowing as the fact that a woman has been evicted first on every civilian series, that it took twelve series for a black woman to survive a head-to-head eviction, the double standards in how men and women are viewed with regards to sexuality (how many people who voted for Aaron to win do you think also voted to evict Noirin two years earlier?), and plenty of other issues with racism and sexism.

I don't know, I just find the sense of entitlement that some forum posters have about Americans is unfounded and annoying. This is a British television show and there really is no need for it to pander to the American celebrities, and this sense of entitlement and arrogance that surrounds the Americans is exactly why a lot of the Brits can't stand the Americans.

All I ask for is that the American contestants be treated fairly, if they do something really silly then fair enough, but they shouldn't be hated on just because they're American.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Didn't you know that American people are the only types of people you can say anything against in the UK? It's stupid and rude as these people have actually got names, she should try learning them, the same for all the anti-Americans out there.

Don't forget the French,We can talk sh1t about them too.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Firewire

"Too many Africans" and "too many Indians" has racist connotations. Saying "too many Americans" does not.

No, it has xenophobic connotations instead, which isn't a world away from racism. The same nasty principles apply, the difference is that xenophobia includes prejudice towards people of the same race but still from a different country.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Firewire

"Too many Africans" and "too many Indians" has racist connotations. Saying "too many Americans" does not.

how do you figure that one out?