[Lampfan]

why in gods name did you quoute that

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Lampfan

why in gods name did you quoute that

Because I can?

[Stormy]

Originally Posted by Lampfan

why in gods name did you quoute that

My apologies...thought it would be easier to rebut...but it was a bad idea!!!

[Lampfan]

Originally Posted by Stormy

Didn't know she had a disabled son nor do I know what that has to do with my comments...either way, I take what every housemate says is their reason for being on CBB with a grain of salt...Hopkins included.

Im not after you. I just dont like Hopkins.

She knew this show was made for her and i just like that Perez annoys her. Cami, Kav, Calum, Chloe, and most disappointingly, Michelle have sucked her asshole cause they wanted to be popular. Sad.

[Jack The Cat]

Originally Posted by jaxie

My battery is running low too! I understand what you are saying and quoting. I suppose what I ought to have said is while I accept the right to offend in free speech I am not sure I accept that it is appropriate to use it in all instances. Just because you can doesn't mean you always should.

I say all this from a stance of not personally being easily offended. I have no religion for anyone to upset me over, personal taunts are pretty pointless etc etc. I simply don't like spite for its own sake.

I agree in much in what you are saying, from a personal point of view. However the choice to chose not to say something myself is a personal one I can make for myself. Not a choice I can, should or will place onto others.

One of the reasons I like Katie is she choses to say something offensive, I can respect her for making that choice (Without having to agree with what she said). Throughout history examples can be shown where a society who do not actively exercise a right find themselves losing that right. It is a slippery road once you start on it.

Rights use them or lose them.

Now I accept your point about not being offended yourself, I get that But the definition of spite is.

spite

noun
1.
a desire to hurt, annoy, or offend someone.

Hurt, annoy or offend are linked and unfortunately some will take offence and or be hurt. Is that nice, no it is not. However imho a small price to pay considering the alternative.

So spite for its own sake does have a intrinsic if unfortunate value.

[Stormy]

Originally Posted by Lampfan

Im not after you. I just dont like Hopkins.

She knew this show was made for her and i just like that Perez annoys her. Cami, Kav, Calum, Chloe, and most disappointingly, Michelle have sucked her asshole cause they wanted to be popular. Sad.

I kind of agree with you...here's my take.

Cami, Calum and Chloe line up behind Hopkins because they dislike Perez....and Nadia, Alicia and to some degree Patsy, line up behind Perez because they dislike Hopkins.

I think Kav and Michelle sucked up to Hopkins because of the crowd response and to be popular.

[Deebo]

Originally Posted by adamski94

I thinks Katie H is a great lady and whether she is right or wrong i admire her for saying what nobody else will

There are literally millions of people on Twitter spreading her brand of "truth" about gays, muslims, disabled and poor people!

At least she'd have been entertaining if she'd had the guts to say some of that stuff in the house, instead of playing an angry elderly posh woman

[waterhog]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Katie Hopkins clearly has some popularity and I have to confess I'm perplexed. Am I watching the same show as people who love her? I don't see that her behaviour is better than Perez who I am also not a fan.

If you are a Katie Hopkins fan, what do you like about her, what specifically has she done or said that makes her shine in your eyes? Or do you like her more because you dislike Perez and she is in conflict with him?

its called blinkers - her fans think it is amazing to say what we are thinking when infarct he is embarrassing herself.

katie my darling - lost all credibility - not that you had much.

[Jack The Cat]

Originally Posted by Deebo

There are literally millions of people on Twitter spreading her brand of "truth" about gays, muslims, disabled and poor people!

At least she'd have been entertaining if she'd had the guts to say some of that stuff in the house, instead of playing an angry elderly posh woman

Do you have an example of something negative she has said on twitter about the gay community, I would imagine if she had it would have been mentioned before now?

[cfromhx02]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

She honest and if a spades a spade she calls it that

So she is honest when she says she loves all the British public yet has told us before how she hates all the Scottish

all the northerners

fat people are all just cos their lazy

how she immediately says being left wing is wrong

just like most on tv who try to stifle debate by left wingers before it starts

she attacks all these people which together may be over 50 % of the british public,

tells stupid generalizations about them,so tells lies about them as a group

then tells us how she loves all the british public

and you tell us she tells the truth ?

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by cfromhx02

So she is honest when she says she loves all the British public yet has told us before how she hates all the Scottish

all the northerners

fat people are all just cos their lazy

how she immediately says being left wing is wrong

just like most on tv who try to stifle debate by left wingers before it starts

she attacks all these people which together may be over 50 % of the british public,

tells stupid generalizations about them,so tells lies about them as a group

then tells us how she loves all the british public

and you tell us she tells the truth ?

[cfromhx02]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Oh for Gods sake ,how stupid ?

You mean how stupid anyone is for not realising how her generalizations and spreading hate about groups of people,and raising her profile and worshipping her on BB can help the far right ?

[Jack The Cat]

Originally Posted by cfromhx02

So she is honest when she says she loves all the British public yet has told us before how she hates all the Scottish

all the northerners

fat people are all just cos their lazy

how she immediately says being left wing is wrong

just like most on tv who try to stifle debate by left wingers before it starts

she attacks all these people which together may be over 50 % of the british public,

tells stupid generalizations about them,so tells lies about them as a group

then tells us how she loves all the british public

and you tell us she tells the truth ?

These are just some of her good points, you should back your arguments up by mentioning some of her bad ones.

[Jack The Cat]

Originally Posted by cfromhx02

You mean how stupid anyone is for not realising how her generalizations and spreading hate about groups of people,and raising her profile and worshipping her on BB can help the far right ?

Could you please define "Far Right" cheers.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by adamski94

I thinks Katie H is a great lady and whether she is right or wrong i admire her for saying what nobody else will

This just isn't true. People say what they think all the time on the interweb or at least as much as they are allowed to without getting banned. Just because Katie has been given a platform within a newspaper that constantly demonises the working classes, doesn't make her the only person to voice exactly what she's thinking. I go on a few political forums; one is totally uncensored. People say what they want about anything, regardless of how it insults or offends others. The problem is, when uncensored material like that is open to discussion, it just becomes a cluster ***** of emotional terrorism. Other than KH having a wider audience doesn't make her any different to others who use none moderated forums.

The only thing that bothers me about KH and her network of supporters is; is this outwardly encouraging people to put tact and moral values on the back burner? and that is something I would love to have a discussion about.

[Razor]

Originally Posted by cfromhx02

So she is honest when she says she loves all the British public yet has told us before how she hates all the Scottish



all the northerners



fat people are all just cos their lazy



how she immediately says being left wing is wrong



just like most on tv who try to stifle debate by left wingers before it starts



she attacks all these people which together may be over 50 % of the british public,



tells stupid generalizations about them,so tells lies about them as a group



then tells us how she loves all the british public



and you tell us she tells the truth ?

^^^^this