[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Chaos

I'm not having a go at either of you, but I wanted to know what you'd think if a non-white said 'All white people are disgusting and don't deserve to live' and meant it.

Would that not be racist to you?

Is it not just as bad as a white person saying that to a non-white person? Or do you think it would be worse for a white person to say that about a non-white person?

They would look pretty stupid as it's not a thought that crosses many people's minds. If I was confronted by someone who said that to me, I wouldn't believe that they truly meant it, even if they did. If I was threatened, I would believe them but I wouldn't report it as a racial attack. I would simply report it as harassment. I'm privileged as a white person. I'm not saying it's bad to be any other race, but white people just simple do not face racism.

Saying "All black people are disgusting and don't deserve to live" is completely unacceptable as black people still, to this day, suffer extreme inequality and discrimination. Until it happens to white people, it's not racism. Black people are scared to leave their homes in the U.S. in fear of getting shot. White people do not suffer this fear over their skin colour.

Black people can be racist towards other minorities like the Islamic community as they suffer extreme inequality and discrimination, probably worse in this day and age than black people do. But white people, simply, do not.

[Kizzy]

I thought prejudice towards another race was racism?

[lostalex]

white people are the least racist race in my opinion, based on my 33 years of experience on this planet. That being said, white people are also the most self-confident, and least insecure race.

I think because people that are minorities are so insecure, we end up feeling sorry for them, and they usually end up being painted as victims.

I'm a member of the most oppressed minority in the world, homosexuals, and i see it all the time, plenty of gay people take on a victim mentality, even when they aren't being victimized. The same is true of all minorities.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Firewire

They would look pretty stupid as it's not a thought that crosses many people's minds. If I was confronted by someone who said that to me, I wouldn't believe that they truly meant it, even if they did. If I was threatened, I would believe them but I wouldn't report it as a racial attack. I would simply report it as harassment. I'm privileged as a white person. I'm not saying it's bad to be any other race, but white people just simple do not face racism.

Saying "All black people are disgusting and don't deserve to live" is completely unacceptable as black people still, to this day, suffer extreme inequality and discrimination. Until it happens to white people, it's not racism. Black people are scared to leave their homes in the U.S. in fear of getting shot. White people do not suffer this fear over their skin colour.

Black people can be racist towards other minorities like the Islamic community as they suffer extreme inequality and discrimination, probably worse in this day and age than black people do. But white people, simply, do not.

I get what you're thinking and fair enough, but it's not just black people who are afraid to leave their own homes in the states. You've never lived there. You don't know what it's like. Reading biased reports on the internet is NOTHING compared to living in the states. Most people are afraid to leave their own houses. It has nothing to do with skin colour. Yes, you get racist cops, but again, this is something that is ridiculously over sensationalized by the media and the internet.

I just think that hating on someone for their skin colour, no matter what privilage, no matter what history, no matter what skin colour the hater has, is just plain racism. I don't think there should be a hierarchy of 'who is allowed to be offended' because this is what it seems to be turned into.

[LukeB]

We do get some white people who have a "I hate black people" attitude

What if there is a black person who has a "I hate white people" attitude?
making them feel like ****, beating them up and bullying them because they're white? wouldn't that be class as racism because they are also discriminating?

This could be happening but we never know because they're like millions and millions of people around the world. I'm not saying it does but there is a chance of it.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Chaos

I get what you're thinking and fair enough, but it's not just black people who are afraid to leave their own homes in the states. You've never lived there. You don't know what it's like. Reading biased reports on the internet is NOTHING compared to living in the states. Most people are afraid to leave their own houses. It has nothing to do with skin colour. Yes, you get racist cops, but again, this is something that is ridiculously over sensationalized by the media and the internet.

I just think that hating on someone for their skin colour, no matter what privilage, no matter what history, no matter what skin colour the hater has, is just plain racism. I don't think there should be a hierarchy of 'who is allowed to be offended' because this is what it seems to be turned into.

What a load of crap! I've never met an American who is afraid to leave their house.

I have lived in Oakland California for 10 years, one of the most violent cities in the US(statistically) and I've never felt intimidated or afraid one single time.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by LukeB

We do get some white people who have a "I hate black people" attitude

What if there is a black person who has a "I hate white people" attitude?
making them feel like ****, beating them up and bullying them because they're white? wouldn't that be class as racism because they are also discriminating?

This could be happening but we never know because they're like millions and millions of people around the world. I'm not saying it does but there is a chance of it.

we do know it happens, the most successful radio broadcaster of all time, Howard Stern grew up in an all black community, and he talks all the time about how he was beaten and abused atleast twice a day at school during his child hood.

Youtube video

Howard as talked about his experience being a white minority in a black majority school many times. He talks about the terror and horror he experienced at the hands of the black majority in a New York school.

Youtube video

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by lostalex

What a load of crap! I've never met an American who is afraid to leave their house.

I have lived in Oakland California for 10 years, one of the most violent cities in the US(statistically) and I've never felt intimidated or afraid one single time.

You might not, but I know a lot of people who do. I lived on the outskirts of Baltimore though, maybe that's why,

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Chaos

You might not, but I know a lot of people who do. I lived on the outskirts of Baltimore though, maybe that's why,

well maybe they are associating with the wrong type of people. You can find dangerous neighborhoods and dangerous people in every single city on the planet. That's not an American thing.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by lostalex

well maybe they are associating with the wrong type of people. You can find dangerous neighborhoods and dangerous people in every single city on the planet. That's not an American thing.

That, I agree with. My point was that I don't think it's fair for a person to compare something, when they haven't lived in that place.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Chaos

That, I agree with. My point was that I don't think it's fair for a person to compare something, when they haven't lived in that place.

but when you say that most Americans are afraid to leave their houses, that is just silly. It's not even just silly, it's ridiculous. How the hell did Americans create the most successful economy in the history of the world if they are so afraid to leave their houses? That's just ridiculous hyperbole.