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For the first time Labour poll ahead


For the first time since early 2015, Labour leads - albeit by one seat - in the Guardian’s latest projection of polls.

Miliband’s party is projected to win 273 seats, and Cameron’s 272.
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For the first time Labour poll ahead


For the first time since early 2015, Labour leads - albeit by one seat - in the Guardian’s latest projection of polls.

Miliband’s party is projected to win 273 seats, and Cameron’s 272.
Actually the electoral calculus Kizzy that takes into account loads of polling has Labour presently to get 286 seats and the Conservatives 275,with the SNP on 48.
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Actually the electoral calculus Kizzy that takes into account loads of polling has Labour presently to get 286 seats and the Conservatives 275,with the SNP on 48.
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[Labour in disarray over non-doms:
Miliband says he'll end them... then admits he'll just tweak rules after the true cost is revealed.
And, oh yes, Balls had earlier ruled out a ban
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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3WmZqkYGp

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Ed Miliband - the Double Back Stabber,
Stabbed his Better Brother in the back
and Now is going to Stab the UK
by taking away the Nukes

(This is by MP Fallon ) in the todays papers
saying the only way way for Labour to take power
is with the SNP and they have a Thick Red Line
saying Nukes Must Go.


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[Labour in disarray over non-doms:
Miliband says he'll end them... then admits he'll just tweak rules after the true cost is revealed.
And, oh yes, Balls had earlier ruled out a ban
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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3WmZqkYGp
For crying out loud, he said that in January as I said earlier, he and his team have now almost 3 months later found a way to implement it without it costing more than it will bring in.

If a week is a long time in politics arista, from January to now is a near eternity.
It would have been wrong in January which is why he didn't have it become policy, now with the new plan, it will not cost more so can now be policy.
It is simple enough.

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They conveniently missed off the end of the vid too, they are trying but thank goodness people are waking up and the scales are falling.
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This is a popular policy Kizzy and the Conservatives know it is too.
It is well over time that these people were made to pay their due taxes, no matter how small or how large they would be.
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This is a popular policy Kizzy and the Conservatives know it is too.
It is well over time that these people were made to pay their due taxes, no matter how small or how large they would be.
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For crying out loud, he said that in January as I said earlier, he and his team have now almost 3 months later found a way to implement it without it costing more than it will bring in.

If a week is a long time in politics arista, from January to now is a near eternity.
It would have been wrong in January which is why he didn't have it become policy, now with the new plan, it will not cost more so can now be policy.
It is simple enough.
It's funny how Farage is pilloried for remarks or views he stated 'months' before which were opposite of those he holds now, and denied the right to be able to have changed or amended such views in the interim, yet with Ed Testicles it's perfectly legit.
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It's very different to make an amendment and to set the record straight about obvious slurs than the total contradictions and backpeddling seen by Farage.
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It's very different to make an amendment and to set the record straight about obvious slurs than the total contradictions and backpeddling seen by Farage.
I don't understand what you mean? How is it different?
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Non dom status has been readdressed not scrapped or denied.
That is different to the issues re raised to Mr Farage the NHS being one.
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Fight just got really dirty....

Fallon v Miliband - Key quotes

Here are the key quotes in the Michael Fallon v Ed Miliband row

Michael Fallon in the Times overnight

Ed Miliband stabbed his own brother in the back to become Labour leader. Now he is willing to stab the United Kingdom in the back to become prime minister.

Fallon on the Today programme at 8.10am, defending the comment

This is an issue of trust, and an issue of leadership ... We saw in that leadership election just what he would do to get into power.

With Ed Miliband, you cannot be sure what kind of backstairs deal he is likely to do with the SNP if he’s got any prospect of getting into Number 10 Downing Street.

Nick Boles, the Conservative minister, on Twitter at 8.45am

Ask yourself this. Who does Vladimir Putin want to see running Britain after 7th May?

Answer: the man who abandoned the Syrians to their fate and the woman who wants to scrap our nuclear deterrent.

Ed Miliband at his press conference, at around 10.30am

Michael Fallon is a decent man but today I think he has demeaned himself and demeaned his office. National security is too important to play politics with. I will never compromise our national security, I will never negotiate away our national security ...

I’ve got to say, I think the British people deserve better than what the Conservative party are offering in this campaign, which is a campaign based on deceit and lies.

David Cameron at around 10.30am, defending Fallon

Michael Fallon is making a very important point which is first of all only the Conservatives are absolutely guaranteeing a full replacement of Trident with four submarines and continuous at sea deterrence. It is important that in a dangerous insecure world we have that ultimate insurance policy. That’s guaranteed with the Conservatives'

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Karen Brady on the front row at Cameron Direct. Isn't she a director of a company that doesn't pay any corporation tax but wants corporation tax to be cut?
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Non dom status has been readdressed not scrapped or denied.
That is different to the issues re raised to Mr Farage the NHS being one.
That is not true.

It does not make it at all different just because you say so Kizzy - no matter in what 'sweeping' or 'dismissive' manner you may say it.

There is no difference at all.

Another point concerning the NHS is this;

Farage may have personal views about the NHS which differ from those which his party voted for - but that is nothing more than just an excellent example of 'Democracy In Action'. His party voted and rejected his views and so - as party leader - he has dropped those personal views and is espousing the democratically selected policies of his party.

Do you really think for one second that top university educated millionaire Mr Milliband sincerely 100% truly believes in the political ideologies he espouses to the degree that he lives inside them?

Do you really believe that it sits 'four square' when Ed lives in a £2.5 million pound house in an exclusive area of London, and is worth an estimated £5 to £6 million pounds - having taken every advantage of the 'Super-Rich Friendly' 'Inheritance Tax' regulations to protect and grow that net worth - yet preaches about 'wealth transparency' and 'eradicating the big millions from politics'?

How much in common has Ed really with the class of voters he is trying to appeal to?

This is why I am sick to the pit of my stomach with the 'Big Two' parties because for over 50 years it has been the same merry carousel of 'Be In Power' and prove inefficient, corrupt and unapologetic, then come Election Time, merely spin the same clichéd crap of 'This Time We'll Do This, That, And The Other' only to 'Stay In Power' or 'Get Into Power' and prove inefficient, corrupt and unapologetic, until come Election Time'.....

The simple truth is; that when 'In Power', the Labour Party has been as guilty as the Conservatives of mismanagement, gross inefficiency, corrupt practices, and hypocrisy, and no amount of shouting, posturing or unjust attacking of Farage by Ed or Dave's blinkered, unquestioning and illogical and devout supporters, will camouflage that truth.

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Karen Brady on the front row at Cameron Direct. Isn't she a director of a company that doesn't pay any corporation tax but wants corporation tax to be cut?

She has not broken any laws

Your Fecking 13 year New Labour
could have changed it all
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/gene...rs-debate.html



The most vitriolic attacks were saved up for Ukip's David Coburn who withered on about how leaving the EU would solve most of Scotland's woes. When Mr Coburn suggested that the rise of zero hours contracts was thanks in part to the European Union, Labour's Mr Murphy shouted: "Stop demonising people."

But the most blistering attack came from Nicola Sturgeon, who firmly said: "I think the only depressing thing tonight is the narrow-minded xenophobic attitude of David Coburn. It’s absolutely utterly disgusting. This is the guy who compared one of my colleagues to a convicted terrorist simply because he’s a Muslim. You are a disgrace.”

Ruth Davidson, from the Conservatives, added her dislike of such "bigotry".

Mr Coburn's comments also received some of the night's biggest boos and hisses from the audience.

He later took to Twitter to reiterate what he said:

David Coburn MEP @DavidCoburnUKip
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Zero Hours contracts were brought in to get round EU Temp Workers Directive thus scrapping UK Temp Contracts which had defined T/Ls
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Labour bragged about using London and England's south east to pay for 1,000 Scottish nurses

How would Labour pay for 1,000 extra nurses in Scotland's NHS? Using the introduction of their mansion tax on homes worth more than £2million, which will predominantly hit 'London and the south east', admitted Mr Murphy.

Naturally, this won applause amongst the Aberdeen audience, but Ed Miliband will perhaps be hoping that not too many people south of the border remember these words.



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....But the most blistering attack came from Nicola Sturgeon, who firmly said: "I think the only depressing thing tonight is the narrow-minded xenophobic attitude of David Coburn. It’s absolutely utterly disgusting..."
LOL... Nicola Sturgeon, leader of the Scottish National Party calling someone else a narrow-minded xenophobe. That's what we Jews call 'chutzpah'.
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That is not true.

It does not make it at all different just because you say so Kizzy - no matter in what 'sweeping' or 'dismissive' manner you may say it.

There is no difference at all.

Another point concerning the NHS is this;

Farage may have personal views about the NHS which differ from those which his party voted for - but that is nothing more than just an excellent example of 'Democracy In Action'. His party voted and rejected his views and so - as party leader - he has dropped those personal views and is espousing the democratically selected policies of his party.

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Do you really believe that it sits 'four square' when Ed lives in a £2.5 million pound house in an exclusive area of London, and is worth an estimated £5 to £6 million pounds - having taken every advantage of the 'Super-Rich Friendly' 'Inheritance Tax' regulations to protect and grow that net worth - yet preaches about 'wealth transparency' and 'eradicating the big millions from politics'?

How much in common has Ed really with the class of voters he is trying to appeal to?

This is why I am sick to the pit of my stomach with the 'Big Two' parties because for over 50 years it has been the same merry carousel of 'Be In Power' and prove inefficient, corrupt and unapologetic, then come Election Time, merely spin the same clichéd crap of 'This Time We'll Do This, That, And The Other' only to 'Stay In Power' or 'Get Into Power' and prove inefficient, corrupt and unapologetic, until come Election Time'.....

The simple truth is; that when 'In Power', the Labour Party has been as guilty as the Conservatives of mismanagement, gross inefficiency, corrupt practices, and hypocrisy, and no amount of shouting, posturing or unjust attacking of Farage by Ed or Dave's blinkered, unquestioning and illogical and devout supporters, will camouflage that truth.
Agree..........Why people keep arrogantly dismissing minor Party's or new Party's like UKIP leaves me baffled.

I mean if our Country was on the up and things had been generally improving over the last 4 or 5 decades then I would suggest our Politics was working give or take minor issues, but it clearly is not working and two party Politics has been a disaster for this Country, with one party undoing all the work of the previous Govt and vice-versa.

The Net effect is that nothing gets done, no long term plans or strategies are formulated, Projects that could benefit the Country are usually sidetracked or cancelled the second the other Party gets into Power.

The current trend of EU subservience and uncontrolled unlimited immigration into this Country has accelerated our decline and has been a disaster for everyone.

yet people on here STILL dismiss any new voices for change preferring instead to stay with the two main useless corrupt Party's

Nothing short of total madness..........!!!!
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Published Apr 09, 2015

Today UKIP has announced that they would remove the invidious tax on women’s sanitary products. Currently tampons and sanitary pads are deemed a "non-essential luxury" item by the Treasury and so they are taxed at five percent accordingly. This is an “outdated and outrageous” tax on women, said Suzanne Evans, UKIP’s Head of Policy.

“No other party can pledge to take this simple step," she said, "as under EU rules no item that has ever had VAT charged on it can have VAT removed completely. This shows not only how ridiculous EU legislation is, but how very wrong it is that we've given our tax sovereignty over to a bunch of faceless - and mostly male - EU Commissioners who simply don't understand real life, let alone real life for women.”

"The rules are so daft, that you can go for a swim without paying any VAT, but you'll be charged for it on the tampon you need to wear in order to go for a swim. It's plain stupid."

According to an HMRC statement, "The application of VAT in the EU, including rates and flexibilities afforded to member states such as the UK, is governed by EU law. The UK applies a 5 percent reduced rate of VAT to the supply of sanitary products. This is the lowest rate possible under EU VAT law."

Ms Evans went on, “Only by leaving the EU can this change, and only UKIP wants this to happen. Taxing tampons is straight out of the dark ages, it is a hangover from a distant past when policy makers disregarded the interests and health of woman and it must not be allowed to continue.”

http://www.ukip.org/ukip_will_scrap_the_tampon_tax

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