[Jason.]

The only positives about BB15 were:

The eye
The graphics
The theme itself, not how it was used in the series as that was terrible
The house
The dates (5th June and 15th August were perfect)
Final on a Friday

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by BB6

The only positives about BB15 were:

The eye
The graphics
The theme itself, not how it was used in the series as that was terrible
The house
The dates (5th June and 15th August were perfect)
Final on a Friday

...and Christopher.

[Jarrod]

Originally Posted by Rob!

...and Christopher.

I had the pleasure of interviewing Christopher and he was absolutely lovely.

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by Jarrod

I had the pleasure of interviewing Christopher and he was absolutely lovely.

So did I on couch potatoes - I flirted dreadfully

[Daniel.]

I would rather Helen win than anyone else in the final but Ashleigh and I despise her welp

[Rob!]

By which I mean I'm dreadful at flirting.

[Will.]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

omg love the new eye

[Jarrod]

Originally Posted by Willbrick1999

omg love the new eye

Big Brother: Pancakes and Lies

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

No, the difference is one bitched behind people's backs so didn't actually intimidate or upset anyone whilst the other shouted n people's faces as well as bully and name call people.

Tamara did that to a lesser extent, and she was evicted first because of it.

Oh wait, I forgot. If your friends with Helen, your vilified, whilst if your against her, your "queen".

Ashleigh was no angle, TBH. She gave just as good as she got, and her language was pretty awful towards Helen too.

Helen never bullied Ashleigh. If it was Christopher and Jale, I'd be fine.
But Ashleigh and Helen didn't have a problem till Toya influenced Ashleigh, after Week 3.

I may have liked Helen over Ashleigh, But both are equally vile. It's unfair when one's praised for it.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by BB6

The only positives about BB15 were:

The eye
The graphics
The theme itself, not how it was used in the series as that was terrible
The house
The dates (5th June and 15th August were perfect)
Final on a Friday

This is what annoys me about how bad BB15 ended up, so much about it was great at first. As you say, the eye, graphics and house were all brilliant and the Power Trip concept was really intriguing. I loved launch night, it's up there with my favourites.

The first few weeks were really enjoyable (even though Helen's pass always annoyed me, but I held on to the hope that she'd lose it or get herself thrown out), and then it was all downhill from there. It irks me because BB15 had great potential, I think.

[Will.]

Originally Posted by Jarrod

Big Brother: Pancakes and Lies

lol

[MB.]

Originally Posted by BB6

Tamara did that to a lesser extent, and she was evicted first because of it.

Oh wait, I forgot. If your friends with Helen, your vilified, whilst if your against her, your "queen".

...no, Tamara was evicted for being a desperate, soppy boring mess who clung to the nearest blob with a six pack the minute she found out she was nominated, having spent her entire VT saying that she'd do the complete opposite. What a fantastic housemate.

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by BB6

Tamara did that to a lesser extent, and she was evicted first because of it.

Oh wait, I forgot. If your friends with Helen, your vilified, whilst if your against her, your "queen".

Ashleigh was no angle, TBH. She gave just as good as she got, and her language was pretty awful towards Helen too.

Helen never bullied Ashleigh. If it was Christopher and Jale, I'd be fine.
But Ashleigh and Helen didn't have a problem till Toya influenced Ashleigh, after Week 3.

I may have liked Helen over Ashleigh, But both are equally vile. It's unfair when one's praised for it.

When I say she bullied people, I mean Jale and Christoher, not Ashleigh, something Ashleigh never did.

Tamara was voted out because she was a bore with nothing but a showmance.

My point was proven, Helen bullied people, you yourself admit that, whilst Ashleigh did nothing but talk about Helen behind her back.

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by MB.

...no, Tamara was evicted for being a desperate, soppy boring mess who clung to the nearest blob with a six pack the minute she found out she was nominated, having spent her entire VT saying that she'd do the complete opposite. What a fantastic housemate.

I never said she was a great housemate.
And no she wasn't.

People use her "showmance" as an excuse as ot why she was evicted. Bollocks. It had nothing to do with that.

Look back at the forums.
That night she bitched about Chris, and when she called Jale thick, was what sealed her fate.

My point was that she bitched a bit, but didn't actually upset anyone like Helen did.
Ashleigh did the same, but she's forgiven for it.

Why?

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by MB.

...no, Tamara was evicted for being a desperate, soppy boring mess who clung to the nearest blob with a six pack the minute she found out she was nominated, having spent her entire VT saying that she'd do the complete opposite. What a fantastic housemate.

.

The best possible first eviction outcome I think we've had in a long time

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by BB6

I never said she was a great housemate.
And no she wasn't.

People use her "showmance" as an excuse as ot why she was evicted. Bollocks. It had nothing to do with that.

Look back at the forums.
That night she bitched about Chris, and when she called Jale thick, was what sealed her fate.

My point was that she bitched a bit, but didn't actually upset anyone like Helen did.
Ashleigh did the same, but she's forgiven for it.

Why?

This is rubbish though, Danielle was equally hated in her first week and favourite to go until Tamara started to get on Winston

[Jason.]

at people saying Tamara was evicted because of her showmance.

Just hiding the fact your double standards have been exposed.#

Tamara was evicted because she was friends with Helen, and bitched.
FACT!

Ashleigh also bitched. She's forgiven for it, whilst Tamara was vilified.
Why?

Someone please answer this.

[Will.]

So maybe the eye tonight, I guess we will have to keep spying

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by BB6

at people saying Tamara was evicted because of her showmance.

Just hiding the fact your double standards have been exposed.#

Tamara was evicted because she was friends with Helen, and bitched.
FACT!

Ashleigh also bitched. She's forgiven for it, whilst Tamara was vilified.
Why?

Someone please answer this.

Tamara wasn't even villified wtf Honestly you make no sense, there was a big campaign on here and DS to keep Dnielle in because she was entertaining whilst Tamara had been a bore from the word go after a promising VT.

Tamara was nothing but a bland, bitchy, showmance bore.

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

This is rubbish though, Danielle was equally hated in her first week and favourite to go until Tamara started to get on Winston

Tamara got on with Winston like 5 minutes before the lines closed.
Trust me.

She was evicted because of association, and the fact she had a little bitch.

I can actually bet a wager that if she had been on Jale's side and still had the showmance with Winston, Danielle would've went.

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

Tamara wasn't even villified wtf Honestly you make no sense, there was a big campaign on here and DS to keep Dnielle in because she was entertaining whilst Tamara had been a bore from the word go after a promising VT.

Tamara was nothing but a bland, bitchy, showmance bore.

She was.
She was hated just because she was friends with Helen, and actually didn't do that much to make people dislike her.

You still haven't answered my question.

Tamara bitched, but didn't actually hurt or shout at anyone like Helen did.
Ashleigh bitched but didn't actually hurt or shout at anyone like Helen did.

Why was Tamara evicted first and disliked because of it, whilst Ashleigh is praised for it?

Answer the bloody question, and please stop with the "She was a bore" excuse, it's irrelevant to the question.

Ashleigh was just as irrelevant as Tamara was in the first week, doesn't mean I bring it up as why Ashleigh was popular.

[Jamesy]

Tamara was already pretty boring after a few days. The Tamara we saw in her VT was not the Tamara we saw in the house. When the whole Winston thing started people (the public and forums like this) just saw that as some facade to make herself relevant in some way. That mixed in with associating herself with the bitching group got her kicked out tbh.

Did people even hate Helen by the first eviction? I can't remember half of the start of the series.

Everyone in BB15 was a twat tbh. The only person I genuinely liked was Christopher, and even he got on my nerves later on into the series when he got involved with the school playground.

Hope we don't have a repeat this year. BB15 was only watched by me purely out of habit rather than enjoyment.

[MB.]

I'm not even going to try and explain why I was so happy to see Danielle stay over Tamara when they basically had the same schtick (woman lying in their VT to get into the house) - I suppose 'foul-mouthed Glaswegian nude model-cum-webcam girl with a love of horses forever protesting her innocence as a pure Catholic gay marriage-hater who never swears and has never heard of this thing you call sex despite trying to cram as many f-words into arguments as humanly possible and her main back story being her telling the world how small Dexter's willy is, information that was relayed to evicted housemates one-by-one as photos of Danielle fondling her nipples became a regular feature on Bit on the Side, eventually culminating in a stripper from Essex who Danielle somehow happened to know crashing in and practically reeling off a detailed list of every time Danielle had ever had intercourse' is more interesting a Big Brother trope than 'tee hee let's do a showmance'.

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Jamesy

Tamara was already pretty boring after a few days. The Tamara we saw in her VT was not the Tamara we saw in the house. When the whole Winston thing started people (the public and forums like this) just saw that as some facade to make herself relevant in some way. That mixed in with associating herself with the bitching group got her kicked out tbh.

Did people even hate Helen by the first eviction? I can't remember half of the start of the series.

Everyone in BB15 was a twat tbh. The only person I genuinely liked was Christopher, and even he got on my nerves later on into the series when he got involved with the school playground.

Hope we don't have a repeat this year. BB15 was only watched by me purely out of habit rather than enjoyment.

BIB - Got her kicked out.

But Daniel said Ashleigh bitched but didn't hurt anyone like Helen did.
Tamara did the same thing.

Does having a showmance automatically mean your the worse person?

[MB.]

Originally Posted by Jamesy

Did people even hate Helen by the first eviction? I can't remember half of the start of the series.

There were 'get Helen out' chants during Pauline's eviction, no?