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Old 17-05-2015, 05:24 PM #26
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But Kaz if we had a WW3
on us , all these shy students would
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then I send to the Frontline.

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As long as we have some brave men and women to fight for what we believe in,fair play to them,I would actually love to go on those assault courses and get stuck in,lol,
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As long as we have some brave men and women to fight for what we believe in,fair play to them,I would actually love to go on those assault courses and get stuck in,lol,

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Things can change fast.


I am sure you would get on well with Ex Army man
...I reckon that the changes would be to increase suicide/mental health issues/depression in young people so unemployment figures/benefit expenditure would go down, so a good change, eh...


...my guy is kind of an army all on his own Arista.....
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Because nothing proves discipline and self-worth like being trained to kill and act out centuries-old-imperialist beliefs.

I wonder if Prince George would be called up...
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As an option this would be okay I guess, when would they do it though as kids have to stay in education now until 18
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100% agree with Harry, sort the men from the boys and cowards !!
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Because nothing proves discipline and self-worth like being trained to kill and act out centuries-old-imperialist beliefs.

I wonder if Prince George would be called up...

Yes he would as he gets older


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in WW3 we must stop nukes hitting our nation.
I want to Protect your House
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Then we must track via Space data
and in that meantime troops
made up of fast trained students
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100% agree with Harry, sort the men from the boys and cowards !!
I don't see it as a bad thing for some young people,they get bored,and they could be doing something useful.
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I don't see it as a bad thing for some young people,they get bored,and they could be doing something useful.
'Mummy I'm bored'
'oh little Jimmy, let's send you off to be trained to kill people with big heavy guns'

I'm not a fan of the idea at all.
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..teaching them his wisdom for them to choose if they want to..not taking choices away through National Service...
That really is the main point, no one should ever be forced into this.

It is never going to happen anyway and I am now persuaded by thinking further and the comments on this thread by most,that it never should.
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'Mummy I'm bored'
'oh little Jimmy, let's send you off to be trained to kill people with big heavy guns'

I'm not a fan of the idea at all.
It's not always to teach you to kill,LOL,they learn you various skills,plus if soldiers weren't trained to kill,you may never have been here.
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That really is the main point, no one should ever be forced into this.

It is never going to happen anyway and I am now persuaded by thinking further and the comments on this thread by most,that it never should.

Never say Never
we do not have full data on WW3
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This thread is talking about 2 or 3 years national service, not being drafted to go to an actual war already taking place.

If there was a world war 3, then there would be no choice as to be being called up under some national emergency ruling.
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It's not always to teach you to kill,LOL,they learn you various skills,plus if soldiers weren't trained to kill,you may never have been here.


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This thread is talking about 2 or 3 years national service, not being drafted to go to an actual war already taking place.

If there was a world war 3, then there would be no choice as to be being called up under some national emergency ruling.


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compulsory cannon fodder?
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Do not make it so grim
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The idea that the army is there just to kill people is a very old fashioned view. They do much more than go to war. The British Army were one of the first organisations to react to the ebola crisis, for instance. Also, you have to be quite bright to get into the army, the days when they'd take anyone are long gone.

The British Army is a highly professional organisation and I'm sure the last thing they want is a load of people who don't want to be there. I do agree with some kind of national service but those conscripted should be able to choose - as the system used to work in Germany (suspended in 2011 I believe). They could choose to work with the elderly, for instance.
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The idea that the army is there just to kill people is a very old fashioned view. They do much more than go to war. The British Army were one of the first organisations to react to the ebola crisis, for instance. Also, you have to be quite bright to get into the army, the days when they'd take anyone are long gone.

The British Army is a highly professional organisation and I'm sure the last thing they want is a load of people who don't want to be there. I do agree with some kind of national service but those conscripted should be able to choose - as the system used to work in Germany (suspended in 2011 I believe). They could choose to work with the elderly, for instance.

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I think the army would have the same issues to face that our youth just isn't healthy enough to join anyway voluntary or otherwise. It wouldn't have been spotty recruits that went to aid with the ebola crisis, they have specifically trained medics for that.
I can't imagine why army volunteers would want to work with the elderly... the sally army maybe.
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