[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Selling sweatshirts he's paid a couple of quid for, for £60+ and then magnanimously announcing he's going to give a tiny amount of the profit to "charity" would suggest to me he should be addressing the capitalists rather than the anti-austerity camp. Once he's taken off production costs, shipping, printing, distribution etc. he's still got to be making £30 (I'm being generous, it's probably nearer £40) per sweatshirt. And yet here he is again playing at "man of the people".

I think that was addressed and at length in an episode of the trews, the mail does confuse a lot of people as to the facts in a lot of things..This was a shining example.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I think that was addressed and at length in an episode of the trews, the mail does confuse a lot of people as to the facts in a lot of things..This was a shining example.

Not Everyone on TIBB views those Videos
You Post
I no longer do.


Stop Trying to have Control over any story with R.Brand

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

Not Everyone on TIBB views those Videos
You Post
I no longer do.


Stop Trying to have Control over any story with R.Brand

I posted the explanation on the news thread containing the mails accusation if you didn't watch it then you still only have one side of the argument, therefore you're ignorant of the full facts.
I don't have control of anything Arista it's entirely up to you what you read yet there was a right to reply which is why I posted it, I felt it clarified the issue.

[arista]

Stand-off: Russell Brand is held back by a friend as a group hurls abuse
at him during an anti-austerity march

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3dnKFrinj

[Kizzy]

The mail obsessing about Brand and Church... anything to detract from the thousands protesting against austerity eh? :/

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

The mail obsessing about Brand and Church... anything to detract from the thousands protesting against austerity eh? :/

No its a Valid Story
Not Made up


Thats why the "more balanced News"
Huff. Post did a story on him today
Unlike you I do not do Propaganda like your trew news

[arista]

Brand Had to Run to his Car.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

No its a Valid Story
Not Made up


Thats why the "more balanced News"
Huff. Post did a story on him today
Unlike you I do not do Propaganda like your trew news

You don't see the redirection from the actual reason for the protest to Brand as propaganda?
Look what's happening now... everyone is fixated on him and forgotten what the reason for the protest even was seemingly :/

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

You don't see the redirection from the actual reason for the protest to Brand as propaganda?
Look what's happening now... everyone is fixated on him and forgotten what the reason for the protest even was seemingly :/

No The Huf. Post
has a valid story.


I know why they marched
but if some are against R.Brand
I think its Very important that is also a story.



Fair and Balanced News

[empire]

brand knows nothing about real hard life, he has not done a real days work in his life, he is preaching from a mansion, you have to contribute something to society, brands revolution would create an attitude of lazyness, with people living in cardboard boxes, brand is trying to be the next maximilien robespierre, this man blamed british society for the killing of lee rigby, he feeds his words to the younger people, and his words are pretty dangerous, he is in bed with his bildererg mates, who pay him alot of millions to start a revolution, you don't know who is his real mates are,

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

No The Huf. Post
has a valid story.


I know why they marched
but if some are against R.Brand
I think its Very important that is also a story.



Fair and Balanced News

So the opinion of 2 people in the audience of 1 guest speaker is newsworthy? ok.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

So the opinion of 2 people in the audience of 1 guest speaker is newsworthy? ok.

I value the Huffington Post site
more than "your" propaganda trew news videos

[One woman shouts: "**** him. He should not be on the stage here. Ask him how much they ****ing paid him."]
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015...tml?1434964949

[Kazanne]

Why cant people let the government get on with it and get the country back on it's feet,there might be a few hard times but surely it will be worth it in the end,at least give them a chance to show what they can do,if they screw up,we vote them out next time.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

I value the Huffington Post site
more than "your" propaganda trew news videos

Well seeing as the trews isn't in discussion whatever your feelings are either way are irrelevant to the topic.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

Stand-off: Russell Brand is held back by a friend as a group hurls abuse
at him during an anti-austerity march

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3dnKFrinj

Here is his explanation and right to reply to the divisive mail article.

Youtube video

[the truth]

Brand is former drug addict who supports drugs for everyone, a serial cheat, an addictive personality made famous by mocking the fact hed slept with Andrew sachs grand daughter and ringing mr sachs up live on radio to mock him?
he appears to be making money now off slave labour for swatshirts....he was an awful tv host who never listened and talked over everyone....now hes doing similar in politics. he admits he wants to destroy the establishment. so where will that lead us mr brand? he speaks of cops like he really knows much about how they operate? cops are strangled by the endless legislation of the new labour party he now supports, 3000 new labour laws....endless erosion of civil liberties and more powers to the police to snoop and inspect etc all down to new labour..the extra security and civil liberties erosion was down to terrorism which exploded 1000 times worse again thanks to his party new labour. hes obsessed with corporations but his party did nothing for small businesses to compete with the corporates, so he is very selectively ignoring the other parts of the story that don't suit his narrative. that's why he talks so fast so as not to catch out his hypocrisy

this is not even the part that bothers me, he likes to label anyone who disagrees as a bigot. he is also at the wrong end of every argument and fails completely to ofer a real productive counter idea? yet he fancies himself as a radical and yet he hasn't even got the backbone to offer an ideas suggestions alternative plans..he accuses the tories here of trying to DESTROY THE FABRIC OF SOCIETY? WITH 2 MILLION NEW JOBS AND INCREASED FUNDING FOR THE NHS? ID SUGGEST OIF WE FOLLOWED BRAND HE WOULD DESTROY THE FABRICS OF SOCIETY?

how are you going to create millions o jobs mr brand? to pay for the hospitals and the open borders and the millions of refugees he would let in and the thousands of drug related crime (our drug related crime figures are the worst in Europe) what to do about the bankruptcy of umpteen European nations, the vast unemployment rates across Europe (except UK)

hes not even original. Michael moor and john pilger have done this work infinitely better before him...they expose corporate corruption smartly and it DOES need a man to carry on their work. brand it seems isn't that man. he is too spineless to offer hiw own solutions he just mocks and sneers from the sidelines, creates mayhem and runs back to his mansion claiming hes just a comic? pathetic and dangerous

..his plans for drugs for all, open borders are the ideas of a spoilt child written on the back of a matchstick box....a very very dangerous spineless charlatan who will use his position to influence millions of impressionable teenagers...thankfully some adults will be less gullible

[Kizzy]

Yet another thread derailed, anyone got an opinion about austerity and not Brand?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Yet another thread derailed, anyone got an opinion about austerity and not Brand?

brand hasn't got one either and neither did church....who would they cut where would they save?

personally id cut from large families breeding for benefits. I think dave is wrong to target working tax credits IF indeed he is. Cameron says he wants to get the poorer out of tax yet raises vat which hurts the poor more than anything. labour MUST attack VAT. brand has the whole swagger o a man who wants attention but will soon bore off. as for policy get out of Europe but remain only as a trading partner.

[letmein]

Originally Posted by the truth

Brand is former drug addict who supports drugs for everyone, a serial cheat, an addictive personality made famous by mocking the fact hed slept with Andrew sachs grand daughter and ringing mr sachs up live on radio to mock him?

People should be allowed to take whatever drug they want. We don't need a Nanny government. His personal life is his personal life. His cheating is not my business.

Other than that, I find him repugnant.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by letmein

People should be allowed to take whatever drug they want. We don't need a Nanny government. His personal life is his personal life. His cheating is not my business.

Other than that, I find him repugnant.

I disagree. drug related crime is higher in uk than almost every other country in the western world. it creates violence, massive social problems, theft to feed the addiction, car crashes, destroys lives, families, healthand even murders....its not just a case of putting heroin in your system, its the fact society and the vast silent majority have to pay the price , whether or the drugs, the crimes, the victims of the theft and violence, the broken families, the terrorised neighbourhoods, etc etc

drug laws need to be tightened ....we can then help only those who deserve help, appreciate help, and want to get off this filth...it also costs the nhs and society tens of billions

[arista]

[user104658]

Ahh, I love the smell of Daily Star sensationalism in the morning.

[Kizzy]

Once again the media drags the attention away from the real issue... *sigh*

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Ahh, I love the smell of Daily Star sensationalism in the morning.

Its a Legit Story

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

Its a Legit Story

It's not though is it... you've seen the video, it was one bloke and a very red skinheaded woman...she may have had sunstroke who knows?
It was not however a 'hate mob'.