[the_chosen_one]

Chanelle's got her 'manipulative' thread so it's only fair Ziggy gets one.

Log any examples you see, here.

[GiRTh]

I think Ziggy made a bee line for the best looking woman in the house. He then complimented her and talked of faling for her. It's almost like he thinks we don't know what he's up to.

[the_chosen_one]

Originally posted by GiRTh
I think Ziggy made a bee line for the best looking woman in the house.

Yeah, Emily. As soon as he walked in he kissed them all then tried to kiss Emily a second time but she pushed him away and told him he'd already said hello to her.

(I have to admit, I would have tried the exact same trick.)

[GiRTh]

LOL. I didn't see that. Chanelle is his backup.

[the_chosen_one]

On the HL show he's been talking to the housemates about having to dump Chanelle because she's too immature...

..yet, when he was sat behind the sofa trying to dump Chanelle, he said...

"I'm not prepared to be made to look like a mug. Simple as."

The truth is, he thinks he's part of a "dangerous game" (his own words) and he's scared he's going to lose. All the rubbish he talks inbetween is just to confuse people.

He was practically begging Chanelle to forgive him for trying to play her for a mug. This man deserves everything he's getting, and he doesnt deserve to have Carole on his side, even though he's got her under his thumb.

[DiamondDogTags]

i think he is manipulative and got chanelle on his side because he was outnumbered by the girls.. now that more boys are in the house and other couples might form.. Nicky & Liam also Billi & Amanda.. he wants to "shock" the viewers with a break up.. i also think he knows that by spending most of his time with chanelle other people might think he isnt making an effort to really get to know them and then put him up for eviction

[the_chosen_one]

This isn't really manipulative, but it's an example of what an a-hole he is. I just didnt want to start a thread for it.

Carole was just speaking about Billi maybe having interest in one of the twins and because Ziggy's annoyed at Billi at the moment he just spat at Carole "I don't give a s***! blah blah" in an aggressive tone as he stormed off to the diary room.

I thought it was disgusting the way he spoke to her, she's supported him since he arrived because she has a soft spot for him and he responds by talking to her like a piece of dirt when he's not getting his way. I thought it was appalling.

Shows what he's like when he forgets to keep the facade up.

[Dan_]

He said that Chanelle was his number 1 target and he got her, almost like someone buying something.

I wonder if he had a 2nd/3rd or even 4th target should Chanelle turn down his advances and this is all an attempt to try and be part of a BB couple that he can make money out of.We all know the media love their BB romance stories.

[CassetteFinger]

ziggy he is so manipulative you can tell by looking at his face like if he wants chanelle to do something he will get her in a corner put his arm over her head like really tight like you shouldent speak to this one and that one you know he is 26 and has had fame he knows what he is doing.

[gowildcats]

I think since this thread was made in the beggining of the show, it wasnt as relevant back then. But now that you have seen how much Ziggy manipulate Chanelle, it makes more sense doenst it?

[the_chosen_one]

Originally posted by gowildcats
I think since this thread was made in the beggining of the show, it wasnt as relevant back then. But now that you have seen how much Ziggy manipulate Chanelle, it makes more sense doenst it?

This was a good 3-4 weeks into the show when I started the thread. I thought someone else would do it but the days kept passing by and it never got made. It should really have been started within his first week.

Anyway, here's a recent example of the way he uses Chanelle to manipulate the way he comes across.

I think it was yesterday on the highlights show, he was in the kitchen and Chanelle came to question him about a comment he'd made. He claimed Chanelle was "very prudish". Here's the definition for "prude"...

The Concise Oxford Dictionary
Person of extreme propriety in conduct or speech, especially as regards sexual matters.

So he was basically passing judgement on her for being too particular for his liking, as Liam so eloquently put it, "it means you won't put out".

When Ziggy heard Liam's definition and the stark tone of the insinuation he immediately backtracked and looked for help from Carole, claiming she had a different definition, but Liam had hit the nail on the head. As Chanelle pushed for an answer as Ziggy typically stuttered and spluttered over his words, he turned it round on her by claiming she was the one behaving strangely and even went as far as to call her "crazy". It was quite shocking really.

Chanelle later, in the bedroom, went and got him off the hook by apologising and confessing to being "such a bitch", but either she was saving him on purpose so his image doesnt look bad (my opinion) or she is actually being led into believing that she's the one in the wrong. Either way, Ziggy's behaviour was insulting, sneaky and unacceptable in my view.

He does this nonsense practically everyday, but not many people pick him up on it, and Chanelle can be manipulative too so it gets confusing, but make no mistake, they're both playing the game together.

[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by the_chosen_one

This was a good 3-4 weeks into the show when I started the thread. I thought someone else would do it but the days kept passing by and it never got made. It should really have been started within his first week.

Anyway, here's a recent example of the way he uses Chanelle to manipulate the way he comes across.

I think it was yesterday on the highlights show, he was in the kitchen and Chanelle came to question him about a comment he'd made. He claimed Chanelle was "very prudish". Here's the definition for "prude"...

So he was basically passing judgement on her for being too particular for his liking, as Liam so eloquently put it, "it means you won't put out".

When Ziggy heard Liam's definition and the stark tone of the insinuation he immediately backtracked and looked for help from Carole, claiming she had a different definition, but Liam had hit the nail on the head. As Chanelle pushed for an answer as Ziggy typically stuttered and spluttered over his words, he turned it round on her by claiming she was the one behaving strangely and even went as far as to call her "crazy". It was quite shocking really.

Chanelle later, in the bedroom, went and got him off the hook by apologising and confessing to being "such a bitch", but either she was saving him on purpose so his image doesnt look bad (my opinion) or she is actually being led into believing that she's the one in the wrong. Either way, Ziggy's behaviour was insulting, sneaky and unacceptable in my view.

He does this nonsense practically everyday, but not many people pick him up on it, and it Chanelle can be manipulative too so it gets confusing, but make no mistake, they're both playing the game together.

Hence, Chanelle gave him a blow job that night!!!
The comment worked I guess.