[arista]

Feck Me


BBC2HD Andrew Neil - Shut Up

Stop pushing this.

[arista]

Originally Posted by lostalex

This Corbyn guy must be stopped! HE'S TEARING THE COUNTRY APART!

He is not going to be stopped
in 22mins he goes Live in our Parliament

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

"He'd have been much happier sitting in tent somewhere in the Middle East". It's extremist ****ing nonsense Kirk.

I've also (literally) never gotten "hysterical" about anything at all on here . You're the one foaming at the mouth in 70% of threads...

'Friends' of Labour Leader Jeremy Corbin 1:

1) Muslim 'Hate Activist' Abou Jahjah – now banned from the UK – who has spent a decade stirring up hatred and inciting slaughter. His very public statements and actions include:

a) Considering "every dead Dutch, British and American soldier a victory”.

b) Dubbing the 9/11 terror atrocities “sweet revenge”.

c) Attacking Europe for “Jew-worshiping”.

d) Cursed gay people as “Aids spreading fagots”.

e) Been arrested for organising an Arab riot.

f) Published twisted anti-Jewish cartoons, including one showing Adolf Hitler and 15-year-old Holocaust victim Anne Frank both naked in bed with the caption: “Write that in your diary, Anne”.

In 2009 Corbyn INVITED his FRIEND Dyab Abou Jahjah to address a meeting at the House of Commons. and also spoke at an anti-war rally alongside his friend Abou Jahjah in central London.

"In a sign that Mr Corbyn’s links to the Arab extremist are still active, only two weeks ago Abou Jahjah tweeted warm messages of support for the leftwing campaigner."

Corbyn is apparently thick as two short planks and very naive because DESPITE over a decade of Abou Jahjah's VERY PUBLIC displays of Islamic Extremism and terrorist support, a spokeswoman for the Labour Leader said:

“This is an attempt to smear Jeremy by association. The views expressed here are abhorrent.

“If they are indeed those of Dyou Abou Jahjah there is no suggestion he has said them in Jeremy’s hearing."

'Friends' of Labour Leader Jeremy Corbin 2:

1) In February 20014 Corbyn shared a platform with his friend Sayyed Hassan al-Sadr - the British 'Representative' of the Iranian-backed Mahdi Army militia, led by Muqtada al-Sadr, which killed at least 70 British soldiers and thousands of Iraqi civilians during 2004 to 2008.

The occasion was to CELEBRATE the 35th anniversary of the ayatollahs’ revolutionary takeover in Iran. In his talk, entitled “The Case for Iran,” Corbyn the Patriot:

1) Called for the immediate scrapping of sanctions on the country.

2) Attacked Iran's 'colonial exploitation' by British business

3) Called for an end to the “demonisation” of Iran's extremist regime by the West.

Need I outline the numerous other Terrorist Organisations which this creep supports and numbers as his friends?

Later perhaps. For now, here's more TRUTH about Corbyn:

1) Received thousands of pounds in gifts from organisations closely linked to the terror group Hamas, whose operatives he described as “friends”.

2) Insulted terror victims by repeatedly refusing to condemn IRA atrocities during a BBC Ulster broadcast in August 2015.

3) Travelled to Tehran at the expense of a secretive British-Iranian multi-millionaire who has employed a number of other British parliamentarians as consultants to build business links with the country.

4) From the mid 80's he tirelessly built links between the outlawed IRA and the British labour Party, inviting senior representives to parliament.

5) He has praised the IRA and stated that dead IRA members should be "honoured".

6)"In February 2013, Corbyn and his wife travelled to Gaza thanks to a £2,800 gift from Interpal, a British charity banned by the US government as “part of the funding network of Hamas” and as a terrorist organisation in its own right."

7) Corbyn has "received at least two further free trips, worth £2,450, from the Palestinian Return Centre and its subsidiary the European Campaign to End the Siege on Gaza, based at the PRC office in Crown House, Wembley. The PRC is said by the Israeli government to be “Hamas’s organisational branch in Europe” whose members are “senior Hamas leaders who promote the movement’s agenda in Europe.”

Need I continue? Later, perhaps - for now, I ask you to gracefully accept that my comment:

"He'd have been much happier sitting in tent somewhere in the Middle East".

Is based on well established FACT and NOT "extremist ****ing nonsense"

Thank you.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Monarchists have been offended by this the fact that they are veterans too is unfortunate, he was thinking of all service personnel past and present are they all offended?

Exactly. Pro-monarchy veterans have been offended by this because they are pro-monarchy, not because they are veterans. Veterans who are pro-Republic (and I'm sure there are plenty) will not have been offended at all that he chose not to sing it. In fact, I'm sure many fully understand, as I'm sure many in the army (who ARE duty bound to play along, more or less under orders) have to do plenty of monarchy-praising and singing through gritted teeth.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by arista

He is not going to be stopped
in 22mins he goes Live in our Parliament

Thank you, I forgot it was on.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Again you're projecting, a song does not show anything.
Actions speak louder than words, talking to people.. even people we are having major conflicts with.. it's what statesmen/women do.

The very real truth about the Left Wing is, that they are so focused on ousting the Tory Government they DENY, DENY, DENY, ANY ESTABLISHED TRUTHS WHICH DOES NOT FIT THEIR EXTREMIST LEFT WING AGENDA.

Corbyn is a treacherous, anti-British, wanker and his pro-terrorist extreme anti-British views are on record for ALL but the LEFT WING SELF-BLINDED to see.

It is becoming tedious.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

'Friends' of Labour Leader Jeremy Corbin 1:

1) Muslim 'Hate Activist' Abou Jahjah – now banned from the UK – who has spent a decade stirring up hatred and inciting slaughter. His very public statements and actions include:

a) Considering "every dead Dutch, British and American soldier a victory”.

b) Dubbing the 9/11 terror atrocities “sweet revenge”.

c) Attacking Europe for “Jew-worshiping”.

d) Cursed gay people as “Aids spreading fagots”.

e) Been arrested for organising an Arab riot.

f) Published twisted anti-Jewish cartoons, including one showing Adolf Hitler and 15-year-old Holocaust victim Anne Frank both naked in bed with the caption: “Write that in your diary, Anne”.

In 2009 Corbyn INVITED his FRIEND Dyab Abou Jahjah to address a meeting at the House of Commons. and also spoke at an anti-war rally alongside his friend Abou Jahjah in central London.

"In a sign that Mr Corbyn’s links to the Arab extremist are still active, only two weeks ago Abou Jahjah tweeted warm messages of support for the leftwing campaigner."

Corbyn is apparently thick as two short planks and very naive because DESPITE over a decade of Abou Jahjah's VERY PUBLIC displays of Islamic Extremism and terrorist support, a spokeswoman for the Labour Leader said:

“This is an attempt to smear Jeremy by association. The views expressed here are abhorrent.

“If they are indeed those of Dyou Abou Jahjah there is no suggestion he has said them in Jeremy’s hearing."

'Friends' of Labour Leader Jeremy Corbin 2:

1) In February 20014 Corbyn shared a platform with his friend Sayyed Hassan al-Sadr - the British 'Representative' of the Iranian-backed Mahdi Army militia, led by Muqtada al-Sadr, which killed at least 70 British soldiers and thousands of Iraqi civilians during 2004 to 2008.

The occasion was to CELEBRATE the 35th anniversary of the ayatollahs’ revolutionary takeover in Iran. In his talk, entitled “The Case for Iran,” Corbyn the Patriot:

1) Called for the immediate scrapping of sanctions on the country.

2) Attacked Iran's 'colonial exploitation' by British business

3) Called for an end to the “demonisation” of Iran's extremist regime by the West.

Need I outline the numerous other Terrorist Organisations which this creep supports and numbers as his friends?

Later perhaps. For now, here's more TRUTH about Corbyn:

1) Received thousands of pounds in gifts from organisations closely linked to the terror group Hamas, whose operatives he described as “friends”.

2) Insulted terror victims by repeatedly refusing to condemn IRA atrocities during a BBC Ulster broadcast in August 2015.

3) Travelled to Tehran at the expense of a secretive British-Iranian multi-millionaire who has employed a number of other British parliamentarians as consultants to build business links with the country.

4) From the mid 80's he tirelessly built links between the outlawed IRA and the British labour Party, inviting senior representives to parliament.

5) He has praised the IRA and stated that dead IRA members should be "honoured".

6)"In February 2013, Corbyn and his wife travelled to Gaza thanks to a £2,800 gift from Interpal, a British charity banned by the US government as “part of the funding network of Hamas” and as a terrorist organisation in its own right."

7) Corbyn has "received at least two further free trips, worth £2,450, from the Palestinian Return Centre and its subsidiary the European Campaign to End the Siege on Gaza, based at the PRC office in Crown House, Wembley. The PRC is said by the Israeli government to be “Hamas’s organisational branch in Europe” whose members are “senior Hamas leaders who promote the movement’s agenda in Europe.”

I can accept that none of this is necessarily extreme nor nonsense if you happen to believe all of it. It's well laid out and backed up. Thumbs up.

"He'd have been much happier sitting in tent somewhere in the Middle East".

This is still hysterical, extremist, propaganda-style nonsense. It's hyperbole for effect. Which I can accept if it's done in good humour and obviously self-aware exaggeration BUT when you say these things, Kirk, I think you literally mean them as fact. As in, he would genuinely be buzzing his old tits off if he was sat in a tent in the middle east surrounded by ISIS soldiers.

Stick to properly laying things out like above. You still sound a bit ranty and angry, sure, but it has more impact than these silly soundbites that would have him carrying an AK and strapped with explosives. It makes you sound unhinged, and absolutely no one is going to listen to that.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

'Friends' of Labour Leader Jeremy Corbin 1:

1) Muslim 'Hate Activist' Abou Jahjah – now banned from the UK – who has spent a decade stirring up hatred and inciting slaughter. His very public statements and actions include:

a) Considering "every dead Dutch, British and American soldier a victory”.

b) Dubbing the 9/11 terror atrocities “sweet revenge”.

c) Attacking Europe for “Jew-worshiping”.

d) Cursed gay people as “Aids spreading fagots”.

e) Been arrested for organising an Arab riot.

f) Published twisted anti-Jewish cartoons, including one showing Adolf Hitler and 15-year-old Holocaust victim Anne Frank both naked in bed with the caption: “Write that in your diary, Anne”.

In 2009 Corbyn INVITED his FRIEND Dyab Abou Jahjah to address a meeting at the House of Commons. and also spoke at an anti-war rally alongside his friend Abou Jahjah in central London.

"In a sign that Mr Corbyn’s links to the Arab extremist are still active, only two weeks ago Abou Jahjah tweeted warm messages of support for the leftwing campaigner."

Corbyn is apparently thick as two short planks and very naive because DESPITE over a decade of Abou Jahjah's VERY PUBLIC displays of Islamic Extremism and terrorist support, a spokeswoman for the Labour Leader said:

“This is an attempt to smear Jeremy by association. The views expressed here are abhorrent.

“If they are indeed those of Dyou Abou Jahjah there is no suggestion he has said them in Jeremy’s hearing."

'Friends' of Labour Leader Jeremy Corbin 2:

1) In February 20014 Corbyn shared a platform with his friend Sayyed Hassan al-Sadr - the British 'Representative' of the Iranian-backed Mahdi Army militia, led by Muqtada al-Sadr, which killed at least 70 British soldiers and thousands of Iraqi civilians during 2004 to 2008.

The occasion was to CELEBRATE the 35th anniversary of the ayatollahs’ revolutionary takeover in Iran. In his talk, entitled “The Case for Iran,” Corbyn the Patriot:

1) Called for the immediate scrapping of sanctions on the country.

2) Attacked Iran's 'colonial exploitation' by British business

3) Called for an end to the “demonisation” of Iran's extremist regime by the West.

Need I outline the numerous other Terrorist Organisations which this creep supports and numbers as his friends?

Later perhaps. For now, here's more TRUTH about Corbyn:

1) Received thousands of pounds in gifts from organisations closely linked to the terror group Hamas, whose operatives he described as “friends”.

2) Insulted terror victims by repeatedly refusing to condemn IRA atrocities during a BBC Ulster broadcast in August 2015.

3) Travelled to Tehran at the expense of a secretive British-Iranian multi-millionaire who has employed a number of other British parliamentarians as consultants to build business links with the country.

4) From the mid 80's he tirelessly built links between the outlawed IRA and the British labour Party, inviting senior representives to parliament.

5) He has praised the IRA and stated that dead IRA members should be "honoured".

6)"In February 2013, Corbyn and his wife travelled to Gaza thanks to a £2,800 gift from Interpal, a British charity banned by the US government as “part of the funding network of Hamas” and as a terrorist organisation in its own right."

7) Corbyn has "received at least two further free trips, worth £2,450, from the Palestinian Return Centre and its subsidiary the European Campaign to End the Siege on Gaza, based at the PRC office in Crown House, Wembley. The PRC is said by the Israeli government to be “Hamas’s organisational branch in Europe” whose members are “senior Hamas leaders who promote the movement’s agenda in Europe.”

Need I continue? Later, perhaps - for now, I ask you to gracefully accept that my comment:

"He'd have been much happier sitting in tent somewhere in the Middle East".

Is based on well established FACT and NOT "extremist ****ing nonsense"

Thank you.

Not fact at all, is talking to those with which we are having conflict wrong... is bombing and creating more refugees and putting more service personnel and innocent people at risk more beneficial?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I can accept that none of this is necessarily extreme nor nonsense if you happen to believe all of it. It's well laid out and backed up. Thumbs up.




This is still hysterical, extremist, propaganda-style nonsense. It's hyperbole for effect. Which I can accept if it's done in good humour and obviously self-aware exaggeration BUT when you say these things, Kirk, I think you literally mean them as fact. As in, he would genuinely be buzzing his old tits off if he was sat in a tent in the middle east surrounded by ISIS soldiers.

Stick to properly laying things out like above. You still sound a bit ranty and angry, sure, but it has more impact than these silly soundbites that would have him carrying an AK and strapped with explosives. It makes you sound unhinged, and absolutely no one is going to listen to that.

Thank you - you have just PROVED my point.

The very real truth about the Left Wing is, that they are so focused on ousting the Tory Government they DENY, DENY, DENY, ANY ESTABLISHED TRUTHS WHICH DOES NOT FIT THEIR EXTREMIST LEFT WING AGENDA.

Corbyn is a treacherous, anti-British, wanker and his pro-terrorist extreme anti-British views are on record for ALL but the LEFT WING SELF-BLINDED to see.

It is becoming tedious.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I can accept that none of this is necessarily extreme nor nonsense if you happen to believe all of it. It's well laid out and backed up. Thumbs up.




This is still hysterical, extremist, propaganda-style nonsense. It's hyperbole for effect. Which I can accept if it's done in good humour and obviously self-aware exaggeration BUT when you say these things, Kirk, I think you literally mean them as fact. As in, he would genuinely be buzzing his old tits off if he was sat in a tent in the middle east surrounded by ISIS soldiers.

Stick to properly laying things out like above. You still sound a bit ranty and angry, sure, but it has more impact than these silly soundbites that would have him carrying an AK and strapped with explosives. It makes you sound unhinged, and absolutely no one is going to listen to that.

You are trolling now or are you seriously suggesting that its ok for one of our political leaders to be endorsing support of terrorists?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Not fact at all, is talking to those with which we are having conflict wrong... is bombing and creating more refugees and putting more service personnel and innocent people at risk more beneficial?

Thank you - you have just PROVED my point:

The very real truth about the Left Wing is, that they are so focused on ousting the Tory Government they DENY, DENY, DENY, ANY ESTABLISHED TRUTHS WHICH DOES NOT FIT THEIR EXTREMIST LEFT WING AGENDA.

Corbyn is a treacherous, anti-British, wanker and his pro-terrorist extreme anti-British views are on record for ALL but the LEFT WING SELF-BLINDED to see.

It is becoming tedious.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Thank you - you have just PROVED my point:

The very real truth about the Left Wing is, that they are so focused on ousting the Tory Government they DENY, DENY, DENY, ANY ESTABLISHED TRUTHS WHICH DOES NOT FIT THEIR EXTREMIST LEFT WING AGENDA.

Corbyn is a treacherous, anti-British, wanker and his pro-terrorist extreme anti-British views are on record for ALL but the LEFT WING SELF-BLINDED to see.

It is becoming tedious.

I haven't proved anything as to your one sided argument, sorry you feel you have to resort to profanity it doesn't do a thing to prove what you say has any basis in truth. The tory response to anything appears to bomb first and speak later, usually when it's too late.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

You are trolling now or are you seriously suggesting that its ok for one of our political leaders to be endorsing support of terrorists?

No. I'm saying that if Kirk wants to point these things out, he should do so without the hysterics. It's more interesting to read and less like a Dave C-style propaganda tweet.

I feel that at this point, I should take a moment to clarify that I am neither a Corbynite or a Labour supporter. I still think Corbyn looks like Steptoe. I happen to think that he's potentially a little bit naive in terms of potential outcomes, also. I also today realised that, somewhat farcically, he will quite obviously never be PM even with all other considerations out of the window, because he's 66, and by the time the next election comes he'll be 71... and therefore, probably dead, or at the very least, moderately senile. A bit like Kirk really so I dunno what he's worried about.

I won't comment on whether or not Corbyn is, in fact, a "supporter of terrorism"... separating the truth from the propaganda is difficult at this point because there is so much of it floating around. It's worrying if he is, but in my opinion, no more or less worrying than Tory ties to private entities and, historically, arms dealers selling guns that are now in the hands of the very same terrorists.

I don't like Labour. Their election campaign was a farce, this leadership campaign was even more of a farce. I just dislike them less than I dislike the Tories. There is no ideal for me - my ideal was a "Yes" vote in the referrendum last Summer and then the SNP being overturned by a more competent and progressive government in Scotland - but the chance for that has come and gone so I consider myself to be somewhat impartial. Just a melancholy fellow slowly watching the world inevitably unravel. I would just rather see some compassion going around as it all crumbles, and so Corbyn's socialist policies (if they are true) sit better with me than Cameron relentlessly beating a dead horse with a massive capitalist stick.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I haven't proved anything as to your one sided argument, sorry you feel you have to resort to profanity it doesn't do a thing to prove what you say has any basis in truth. The tory response to anything appears to bomb first and speak later, usually when it's too late.

'Profanity'? Where????

Also - once again, and typically; you have MOVED the goalposts. The subject of 'Tory Response' has never formed any part of what this thread is about or my posts in it.

I am referring specifically to Jeremy Corb in and his refusal to sing our National anthem, then - in response to stimuli by other members - I posted established, well documented FACTS about his abhorrent political allegiance with terrorist organisations, his support for, and friendship with terrorist leaders and 'hate mongers', and his unpatriotic conduct and statements.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Our country was built on monarchy.If he is ashamed of that fact then he really should feck off to somewhere he is not so ashamed of.Imo.

our country was raped and pillaged by monarchy for centuries...almost every war was started by the monarchy too...plus the potato famine that killed a million irish....theyre history is disgusting...this great country is built on the people..the millions who built it up , the millions who created the industrial revolution and the millions who fought and died to defend it too

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

'Profanity'? Where????

Also - once again, and typically; you have MOVED the goalposts. The subject of 'Tory Response' has never formed any part of what this thread is about or my posts in it.

I am referring specifically to Jeremy Corb in and his refusal to sing our National anthem, then - in response to stimuli by other members - I posted established, well documented FACTS about his abhorrent political allegiance with terrorist organisations, his support for, and friendship with terrorist leaders and 'hate mongers', and his unpatriotic conduct and statements.

Ah I'm not repeating the language used, no matter.
I am not moving goalposts not sure why I'm being accused again of doing so, if we can question the approach of talking then we can counter with the alternative response of BOMB, BOMB, BOMB.

It is his prerogative to sing or not, it is not a measure of how he feels about or reacts to any diplomatic process.

[arista]

JC has now said he will sing it.


Ref: BBC2HD Live

[lostalex]

Is he gonna act like an asshole?

[Firewire]

Don't know why people are making it such an issue. I don't know a single word to the song (except the title).

[joeysteele]

I'd have sang it myself but fail to see why it needed to be even sung at this function anyway.
This was to honour the pilots in the Battle of Britain,not to further glorify an already over privileged person.

I am a Royalist and would hate to be a Republic but for me we have probably the worst so called National anthem anywhere.
It makes no mention of the real people of these Islands and requests more personal glorification and protection for one individual,namely the Monarch.
Who has not the slightest bit of power anyway.

I think its melody is dreary and in fact depressing and the words meaningless for a multi Nation United Kingdom in the 21st century.

Look however, had he sang it, he would have then been hailed a hypocrite for doing so, by not singing it,he still gets a backlash.
He stood in silence respectfully,that for me was fine, had he remained seated and snubbed the whole thing, that would have been a diffferent thing.

For goodness sake, we have loads of great musicians in the UK, surely someone could bring about a National anthem that reflected the peoples of these islands and had some real inspiritional melody and words that brought some oomph to all proceedings.

[smudgie]

Pftttt he has now conformed.

[lostalex]

Corbyn loves the Queen like all good english boys should.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I'd have sang it myself but fail to see why it needed to be even sung at this function anyway.
This was to honour the pilots in the Battle of Britain,not to further glorify an already over privileged person.

I am a Royalist and would hate to be a Republic but for me we have probably the worst so called National anthem anywhere.
It makes no mention of the real people of these Islands and requests more personal glorification and protection for one individual,namely the Monarch.
Who has not the slightest bit of power anyway.

I think its melody is dreary and in fact depressing and the words meaningless for a multi Nation United Kingdom in the 21st century.

Look however, had he sang it, he would have then been hailed a hypocrite for doing so, by not singing it,he still gets a backlash.
He stood in silence respectfully,that for me was fine, had he remained seated and snubbed the whole thing, that would have been a diffferent thing.

For goodness sake, we have loads of great musicians in the UK, surely someone could bring about a National anthem that reflected the peoples of these islands and had some real inspiritional melody and words that brought some oomph to all proceedings.

agreed joey....Britain has produced many of the best musicians and the best rock stars ever ....surely to goodness we can produce something better....for what its worth whilst I like the flower of Scotland tune, im not keen on the words, too much blood and guts, the Marseille is magnificent but again its all war based....one of the irish anthems is good, the welsh anthem is magnificent, the American is great, the german anthem is nice, the Russian one is catchy, candaian I like, new Zealand and aussie are lovely and the south African is possibly the best of all

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by the truth

agreed joey....Britain has produced many of the best musicians and the best rock stars ever ....surely to goodness we can produce something better....for what its worth whilst I like the flower of Scotland tune, im not keen on the words, too much blood and guts, the Marseille is magnificent but again its all war based....one of the irish anthems is good, the welsh anthem is magnificent, the American is great, the german anthem is nice, the Russian one is catchy, candaian I like, new Zealand and aussie are lovely and the south African is possibly the best of all

Glad we agree the truth.

[letmein]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Corbyn loves the Queen like all good english boys should.