[Daniel.]

I was born to be emo

[Daniel.]

I just don't get what in my personal life would make me gay?

[MB.]

Stop arguing and enjoy cock you lot

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

I just don't get what in my personal life would make me gay?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Quasar

I actually said in a few posts back that I didn't believe that gay babies are born. But I also don't believe that someone's environment or socialisation or how they are brought up determines their sexuality. It's like saying someone born in Brighton is going to grow and and be gay because there's a lot of gay people in Brighton

Yes, but you're focussing on ONE OF MANY factors - the fact they were born in Brighton.

We are all brought up with millions of different influences and variables that change from person to person, not just who are parents are or where we live.

No one's saying that only ONE FACTOR can affect your sexuality. It's a combination of everything. Hence no formula as each and every person is entirely unique in their circumstances and life.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Quasar

I actually said in a few posts back that I didn't believe that gay babies are born. But I also don't believe that someone's environment or socialisation or how they are brought up determines their sexuality. It's like saying someone born in Brighton is going to grow and and be gay because there's a lot of gay people in Brighton

Well if you don't believe babies are born with a sexuality, then the only other option is for one's sexuality to be developed unconsciously in the early stages of life as a product of your surroundings. There's no in between the second you're born socialisation begins immediately, so either you're born with your personality, mannerisms and sexuality already mapped out, or you're born as a blank slate and all of these are learned behaviour. Again, not through choice, but developed outside of the womb all the same

And that is far too simplistic it's not like that at all

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yes, but you're focussing on ONE OF MANY factors - the fact they were born in Brighton.

We are all brought up with millions of different influences and variables that change from person to person.

No one's saying that only ONE FACTOR can affect your sexuality. It's a combination of everything. Hence no formula.

I wasn't focussing on one factor. It was example.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Quasar

I wasn't focussing on one factor. It was example.

An example that focusses on one factor all the same.

There are too many factors in life to list them all conclusively.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

An example that focusses on one factor all the same.

There are too many factors in life to list them all conclusively.

But a lot of different factors would come into play if you lived in a place with a lot of gay people.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Quasar

But a lot of different factors would come into play if you lived in a place with a lot of gay people.

Yes, but it wouldn't be a case of "You're gay because you grew up in Brighton with lots of gay people" because someone else who also grew up in Brighton will have grown up straight or bi because outside of the fact they live in Brighton they have a million and one DIFFERENT factors all merging together to make a different person.

Hence why you can get twins with different sexualities.

[Dollface]

[Marsh.]

Awww, see, animals can be camp as christmas too.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Dollface

[Glenn.]

I'm going to bed. You can have your nuture crap all you want. It's just a bunch of researchers who have nothing better to do who vaguely put together a bunch of crap.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Quasar

I'm going to bed. You can have your nuture crap all you want. It's just a bunch of researchers who have nothing better to do who vaguely put together a bunch of crap.

I love respectful debates.

I wonder what factors make you such a ferociously defensive person....

[iRyan]

Sexuality is on a spectrum. Some people realize where they are on that spectrum as early as they can remember, others realize it much later in life.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Quasar

I think your wrong, you think I'm wrong. Debates are completely pointless.

Not really. I don't think you're wrong, I just have a different viewpoint.

I just think the way you approach a discussion is a little.... hostile when it doesn't need to be.

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by Quasar

I'm going to bed. You can have your nuture crap all you want. It's just a bunch of researchers who have nothing better to do who vaguely put together a bunch of crap.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Not really. I don't think you're wrong, I just have a different viewpoint.

I just think the way you approach a discussion is a little.... hostile when it doesn't need to be.

There's not a lot I can do about that. It's how I've been 'nurtured'

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Quasar

I'm going to bed. You can have your nuture crap all you want. It's just a bunch of researchers who have nothing better to do who vaguely put together a bunch of crap.

Yes, researchers who have nothing better to do but try to theorise the world we live in in and its people in work you can't be bothered to read in order to make sense of it and try to be a progressive force for change

You can have all your stubborn 'I can't be bothered to comprehend this because it's stretches beyond what I've been taught so it must be crap!' attitude all you want. It's just a bunch of people on an internet forum who fail to understand basic societal concepts who whine on about not understanding it and so refute and ridicule it rather ironically

Is this how serious debates is supposed to work?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Quasar

There's not a lot I can do about that. It's how I've been 'nurtured'

Correct. We've made progress.

Although just because you've grown into an angry person doesn't mean there aren't ways you can learn to control it.

[Daniel.]

im perched for james realising he's gay soon

[Dollface]

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

im perched for james realising he's gay soon

He already knows he is.

But just like most self-respecting homosexuals, he knows when a cock is full of sh*t and calling themselves Austin.

[Jay.]

maybe some people fall out the pussy and get scared of it

and some like it

idk i've not read any of this and i don't know anything about it to possibly comment