[Lauren]

Originally posted by Feral

What's that got to do with the weather?!!!

Sorry Sticks - link may be wrong.

It's the right link... it has nothing to do with weather.

[GiGi]

Originally posted by Psylocke

hit the nail on the head again L

Yeah but i dont think the word is as severe as what Emily said.

And the N word is derived from when black people were enslaved and this was a derrogatory word.

As sticks pointed out, the word ****, was origionally used to describe an affeminate man,

[Wiglet]

Originally posted by Psylocke

You Freakin ROCK.

You always manage to perfectly sum up an issue.Lauren and you are possible the most articulate members here (sorry there my tounge came close to you guys asses lol)

ooooh I say!

[Lauren]

Originally posted by amzor
And the N word is derived from when black people were enslaved and this was a derrogatory word.

As sticks pointed out, the word ****, was origionally used to describe an affeminate man,

And within recent times, '****' has been used as a homophobic derogatory term used in many homophobic attacks - so once again I ask, why does this make it a more "acceptable" word?

[Psylocke]

Originally posted by amzor

Yeah but i dont think the word is as severe as what Emily said.

And the N word is derived from when black people were enslaved and this was a derrogatory word.

As sticks pointed out, the word ****, was origionally used to describe an affeminate man,

But it still has derogotory history.

honestly in the terms of fairness,she should be treated as Emily.Its still deemed a homophobic slur

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Psylocke
Lauren and you are possible the most articulate members here (sorry there my tounge came close to you guys asses lol)

Why thank you ... I think.

[Sticks]

Originally posted by Feral

What's that got to do with the weather?!!!

Sorry Sticks - link may be wrong.

Read the article more closely and you will see a parallel with my world, people with disabilities

[Lauren]

I understand your point, Sticks, but when has the word "brainstorm" been used in a derogatory manner against someone with a disability? My point is that "****" has been used in this exact manner.

[bananarama]

I wonder why it's ok to use offensive words like slapper. slag. slut. Bunny boiler. Often used on forums .It seems there is one rule for some and another rule for others..


The sad fact is we have become a word sensitive society.....As such we are in the realms of total maddness trying to please all people at all times. Trying to achiev the impossible The ultimate sign of insanity.....

Those that the gods wish to destroy he first driveth mad.......No i am not religious but if I was I would believe that Great Britain is on the verge of destruction....

[Psylocke]

Yes,**** has been used in the Playground to bully gay children,and been used in Gay bashings etc etc.Im sure you guys can see where the offense is.

[Sticks]

Originally posted by Lauren
I understand your point, Sticks, but when has the word "brainstorm" been used in a derogatory manner against someone with a disability? My point is that "****" has been used in this exact manner.

People get paranoid about the words and never see the context in which they are used.

Remember what Humpty-Dumpty said?

[GiGi]

Originally posted by Psylocke

But it still has derogotory history.

honestly in the terms of fairness,she should be treated as Emily.Its still deemed a homophobic slur

Yes you are right actually , you two hold a valid point, its still a bad choice of words, and unacceptable.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Sticks

People get paranoid about the words and never see the context in which they are used.

Remember what Humpty-Dumpty said?

The only thing I know about Humpty-Dumpty is that he had a big fall Sorry, I don't get your reference.

People do get paranoid about words and not context, and so why was Emily ejected when saying a word in an apparently jovial manner?

[Psylocke]

Originally posted by Lauren

The only thing I know about Humpty-Dumpty is that he had a big fall Sorry, I don't get your reference.

People do get paranoid about words and not context, and so why was Emily ejected when saying a word in an apparently jovial manner?

Yes excatly,Im not worried about the word so much,its the double standards thats annoying me.

[Sticks]

Originally posted by Lauren

The only thing I know about Humpty-Dumpty is that he had a big fall Sorry, I don't get your reference.

People do get paranoid about words and not context, and so why was Emily ejected when saying a word in an apparently jovial manner?

From Alice Through the looking Glass by Lewis Carole

Humpty Dumpty "Words mean what I choose them to mean"

[bovvered?]

So if someone in the house, referring to Laura, said... ' My God she's a porker'....

would that be fatist?

and would they face ejection?

Where do you stop????

[GhettoSuperstar]

Justice.
Get her the ****** outta that house.

[Lauren]

If Laura had a genetic disorder which rendered her fat, then yes... it would be fatist.

If she ate so much she galumphed into fatness - then no, that would not be fatist.

The problem with the "n" word and "****" is that they encapsulate a large social audience that are being characterised by factors out of their control.
Like Psylocke already said, many people don't find problems with the word, but with the double standards that are apparent within BB, deeming one word more acceptable than another - when both have the same effects.

[GiGi]

yeah, if Emily got rjected for saying the "N" word then Laura should get ejected for saying "****"

its almost like they are saying "well we will tolerate this language about gay people but not about black people" Its unacceptable language and she should meet the same fate as Emily did.

[Spike]

Laura said a word which offends people like Emily said something which offends people, Laura should be ejected like Emily. It seems Big Brother is giving out the message that being homophobic isnt as bad as being racist.

[GiGi]

Originally posted by Spike
Laura said a word which offends people like Emily said something which offends people, Laura should be ejected like Emily. It seems Big Brother is giving out the message that being homophobic isnt as bad as being racist.

yes, exactly. Id have her out, even though i did like her as a housemate, but what she said shouldnt be tolerated..

[bovvered?]

and calling Carole a silly old bat...?

ageist & offensive?

Thank God there are no gingas in the house!
(no offence to gingas of course) but what .....ist would that be?
gingerist?

[the_chosen_one]

I think channel 4 would prefer it if the public voted Laura out, rather than get into any more ejection cases. They went to great lengths to showcase Laura's telling off right in the middle of the "sin" party, where the theme is to dress up in leather and vamp the style of such parties frequented by Gerry on a monthly basis, scenes which apparently numbers of the homosexual audience would appreciate, with that way of life being "sinful" according to interpretations of the 7 deadly sins' biblical origin.

I would have thought the audience, sinful or not, would have been aware that Laura was indeed discriminating in the same way we saw Emily do earlier in the series (using a word that offends a minority group, but used in a playful context) and noone would have viewed it as particularly pleasant, but what I find quite annoying is that this word has been used several times before in the house, and nothing has been done about it before.

A quite obvious ploy to aid the series' golden girl, Chanelle, in her eviction battle with Laura.

[bovvered?]

How is calling an OBVIOUSLY very straight man a **** Homophobic?

Calling Gerry a **** IS.

[Lauren]

I'd be saying the exact same thing if someone had said "ginger minger" to a redhead in the house. Many people also argued that Carole was the victim of ageism.

The fact remains that ageism and "gingerism" isn't rife in violent attacks in the UK... homophobia and racism are. Why are they treated differently?

Edit: He is gay, yes. Just as Charley is black... why does this change things?