[Josy]

We find the 'TiBB Staff' infraction system to work better for the forum.

Vicky and Ben were actually harassed to the point of stalking in the past because a member knew they had given them an infraction. That's how serious some people take things.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

You know what if the 'wrath of dezzy' wasn't forum legend... I'd believe you

That's just something I play up to. I actually only infract people rarely, most of the time I'll just delete troublesome posts.

If I was that unfairly wrathful than the other mods would drag me over hots coals for it.

[Ashsleigh]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

We kind of already do, mods do discuss infractions if they feel they are unjust.

Just from experience when I was banned, I wasn't really given a chance to speak for myself. Nothing really gets discussed anymore and when I attempt to discuss things with mods, it's never reciprocated. They try to avoid confronting the issue in a lot of my cases.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by lostalex

maybe that's true dizzy. but i definitely feel like some mods like me better than others. and if we could see who gave the infractions maybe that would prove your point. transparency of the infraction system i think would be better for everyone, mods and members.

Except people just use it to abuse mods and not take responsibilities for their actions. You already think that we're biased and that none of your infractions are deserved, you'd just accuse all the mods of bias if you could see that all the mods infract you equally.

[lostalex]

i definitely feel like most of the time i'm infracted it's not even from the mods, it's just because someone uses the report button, and i nEVER use the report button. I feel like a lot of times it's just an over sensitive jerk that clicks report, and the mods feel like they HAVE to do something because it's reported, even though most people on this forum are mature enough not to use the report button.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

Just from experience when I was banned, I wasn't really given a chance to speak for myself. Nothing really gets discussed anymore and when I attempt to discuss things with mods, it's never reciprocated.

Because we all thought it was a fair infraction. If it wasn't it would have been overturned quickly.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

Just from experience when I was banned, I wasn't really given a chance to speak for myself. Nothing really gets discussed anymore and when I attempt to discuss things with mods, it's never reciprocated. They try to avoid confronting the issue in a lot of my cases.

Did you message any mods or use the contact us form?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by lostalex

i definitely feel like most of the time i'm infracted it's not even from the mods, it's just because someone uses the report button, and i nEVER use the report button. I feel like a lot of times it's just an over sensitive jerk that clicks report, and the mods feel like they HAVE to do something because it's reported, even though most people on this forum are mature enough not to use the report button.

Hey I'm mature... and I use the report button all the time.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by lostalex

i definitely feel like most of the time i'm infracted it's not even from the mods, it's just because someone uses the report button, and i nEVER use the report button. I feel like a lot of times it's just an over sensitive jerk that clicks report, and the mods feel like they HAVE to do something because it's reported, even though most people on this forum are mature enough not to use the report button.

So now you're blaming the people who may or may not report you?

Anything to avoid responsibility for your own actions, I see.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Except people just use it to abuse mods and not take responsibilities for their actions. You already think that we're biased and that none of your infractions are deserved, you'd just accuse all the mods of bias if you could see that all the mods infract you equally.

no, i said i think 75% of the time i know i deserve it, cause i'm usually drunk and bored and i totally know when i deserve a ban. but sometimes it's like an oversensitive religious person, or a person who just does;t like me who is just looking for any excuse. I'm not saying 've never deserved an infraction, i'm just saying if it's transparent i wouldn't have to be worried about those 25% of the time ones that don't make any sense to me. without the forum we used to have i can't even get an explanation anymore.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Josy

Did you message any mods or use the contact us form?

I'm still awaiting a reply from my last message to you joz

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

So now you're blaming the people who may or may not report you?

Anything to avoid responsibility for your own actions, I see.

I clearly said many posts up that i take responsibility for 75% of my infractions. so don't say that i don't take any responsibility. i'm no angel, and never claimed to be. But i do think that just because i'm no angel doesn't mean it's okay to demonize me and i feel sometimes just because i do make mistakes, it means i'm not listened to and i'm unfairly treated SOMETIMES. not everytime, but sometimes.

[Ashsleigh]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Because we all thought it was a fair infraction. If it wasn't it would have been overturned quickly.

It was the reason for the ban that got to me. I thought, if anything, that post would've got me infracted because I was mentioning religion but apparently I was making fun of the moderators so I didn't really get it. It's just further proof that anything you say on here can get maliciously turned into something that wasn't intended in the first place.

[Ross.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

i definitely feel like most of the time i'm infracted it's not even from the mods, it's just because someone uses the report button, and i nEVER use the report button. I feel like a lot of times it's just an over sensitive jerk that clicks report, and the mods feel like they HAVE to do something because it's reported, even though most people on this forum are mature enough not to use the report button.

I rarely use the report button, but when I do I feel it's totally justified. Don't see how that makes me immature?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I'm still awaiting a reply from my last message to you joz

I checked that out when you messaged me and it was 100% clear why the infraction was given, I must have forgotten to reply to the message which is rare because 99% of the time I reply.

Unless you messaged me about something else and I never got the notification on my phone...

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by lostalex

infractions come from different mods, and they all have their own set of rules in their own heads. The rules change depending on who is modding at that particular time. There really is no concrete set of rules, you just have to put up with who is on duty at the time.

if you challenge it that mod just gives you another infraction to shut you up.

Agree with this tbh


Also I don't understand why the private queries forum was removed, just ban the few that abused it from using, why have the minority's ruin it for the majority when there's an easy solution for it

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Agree with this tbh


Also I don't understand why the private queries forum was removed, just ban the few that abused it from using, why have the minority's ruin it for the majority when there's an easy solution for it

It was actually the majority that ruined it not the minority.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Josy

I checked that out when you messaged me and it was 100% clear why the infraction was given, I must have forgotten to reply to the message which is rare because 99% of the time I reply.

I didn't ask why it was given... I know why it was given, that wasn't the query.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Agree with this tbh


Also I don't understand why the private queries forum was removed, just ban the few that abused it from using, why have the minority's ruin it for the majority when there's an easy solution for it

they would probably ban me from it, because i had many of my infractions overturned in there, and the mods that have their infractions overruled get very pissed off and then think i'm manipulative and blah blah.

But the truth is i'm not a bad person, and i'm not a troll. Yes i say some offensive things and i am controversial and confrontational, but i usually follow the rules.

The problem is the rules are not clear, and they basically just depend on who is offended by any given thing.

If i talk about sex, i'm corrupting younger members, if someone else makes a joke about sex, nothing.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Josy

It was actually the majority that ruined it not the minority.

Well keep if for the minority that didn't abuse it then



Also kizzy can you stop brining your personal **** into the thread you're gonna end up getting it closed

[JoshBB]

I usually tone my posts down after getting an infraction.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I didn't ask why it was given... I know why it was given, that wasn't the query.

There was no other query in the message Kizzy other than 'Have I said something wrong' I will check the message again and reply to you but if you know why the infraction was given then I don't understand what it is your questioning.

[Ashsleigh]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

I usually tone my posts down after getting an infraction.

I remember when I got my first infraction, I went on post strike for a good 10 minutes.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Well keep if for the minority that didn't abuse it then



Also kizzy can you stop brining your personal **** into the thread you're gonna end up getting it closed

There was no point when most were abusing it. And we find it works better without it.

Just to add, I liked the appeals section.

[lostalex]

i feel like reopening the forum for challenging infractions would not only make the infracted members feel better, but would also allow other members to understand the rules better. Isn;t the most important thing for all members to understand the rules better? that way they are less likely to break them.