[farhad]

Originally posted by geoking66

Farhad, Big Brother 2004 had an average of 5m viewers, BB7 only had 4.7m. The reason why BB7 was high was because it started earlier than any other BBUK series, thus establishing itself earlier. Otherwise it would have had lower ratings.

5 million not every night, but one thing it help BB7 in ratings push up, was the launch night, and then the ratings were going up, due to that.

[farhad]

Originally posted by geoking66

Farhad, Big Brother 2004 had an average of 5m viewers, BB7 only had 4.7m. The reason why BB7 was high was because it started earlier than any other BBUK series, thus establishing itself earlier. Otherwise it would have had lower ratings.

But thats not point, you have to total it, it is no use, just quoting the average, so BB7 had high total most weeks.

[Stu]

Seeing as you like links , here is a link just for you Farhead.

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar7_Yqh34RY

[*M*a*TT*H*ew*]

BB7 wasn't the best, but it was very entertaining. I must say that top three series are BB2, BB3 and BB5, and in second place are BB4 and BB7, in third place is BB6 and in last place is BB8, which is a huge let down.
BB3 was the most successful, and the figures show it, and it didn't need to win the innovation award like BB1, or the NTA award, like BB7, to show it. It had an average of 5.8 million (28%), way more than any other seriesand a record that probably won't be beaten, it generated 22.9 million votes, way more than any other series, and it made celebrities out of people usch as Jade, something that has never been done before.

Bye the way, sorry for not being here all the time everyone. Nice to be back!

[farhad]

Originally posted by *M*a*TT*H*ew*
BB7 wasn't the best, but it was very entertaining. I must say that top three series are BB2, BB3 and BB5, and in second place are BB4 and BB7, in third place is BB6 and in last place is BB8, which is a huge let down.
BB3 was the most successful, and the figures show it, and it didn't need to win the innovation award like BB1, or the NTA award, like BB7, to show it. It had an average of 5.8 million (28%), way more than any other seriesand a record that probably won't be beaten, it generated 22.9 million votes, way more than any other series, and it made celebrities out of people usch as Jade, something that has never been done before.

Bye the way, sorry for not being here all the time everyone. Nice to be back!

Yeah Jade was just lucky, Kate lalwer should done better, she had the looks to be in lads mag, some talent, and intelligence, Jade Goody had none of those.

[Stu]

Originally posted by farhad

Yeah Jade was just lucky, Kate lalwer should done better, she had the looks to be in lads mag, some talent, and intelligence, Jade Goody had none of those.

As opposed to a certain Ms. Grahame.

[farhad]

Originally posted by Stu

As opposed to a certain Ms. Grahame.

But ms grahame was funny, she was also quite intelligent, there was never a problem understanding what she says as opposed to Goody who cannot even speak properly, Ms Grahame also been a glamour model, she also is good at engaging with the public.

[geoking66]

Farhad, I'm going to summarise your statements. During out viewing and statistical analysis, BB5 without a doubt had higher ratings than BB7 did, which means that to an extent it was more popular with the public. Think of it this way, the BB5 finale peaked at 9m viewers, the BB7 one peaked at 8.2m only to see the most boring and insipid housemate of the series win. You also only compared the viewing figures until Nikki was evicted on Day 58, trying to prove a point that we have still invalidated. Even the text that you wrote disproved you point. You wrote that BB5 had higher ratings yet you still said that it was more successful in that category. That makes absolutely no sense.

Farhad, you believe that ratings are the only measure of the public's opinion toward a series. I'll take BB6 as an example. Despite getting 4.4m viewers as a whole, BB6 is widely regarded as one of the best series of the show, especially by BBUK fans. The number doesn't mean much, rather the viewing percentage means more. BB6 had lower numbers, but still got around 20% of the viewing audience. That's around the same as BB7, again I've invalidated your statement. By the way, one of the main reasons that BB7 got big ratings was because of the success of CBB4. It upped the hype for Big Brother after the "fiasco" that Channel 4 faced after BB6's ratings.

Originally posted by farhad
I so agree, BB7 has had better rating than BB5, except for the fial night, I compare the first 8 weeks, and BB7 beat the BB5 in ratings, I could not compare 9 and 10, as it is unfair, so BB5 has not beaten BB7 in ratings, except the fianl night.

I'll challenge that (espeically the finale comment):

Big Brother 5 - Launch night: 6.7m (34.7%) with a peak of 7.2m (37.6%)
Big Brother 7 - Launch night: 6.9m (30.6%) with a peak of 8.1m (36.7%)
Note that although BB7 had more actual viewers, more television watchers watched BB5 on its launch night. Again, as any person who understands ratings will tell you, the percentage is more important.

Big Brother 5 - Emma and Michelle move to the bedsit on Day 15: 5.9m (28.2%)
Big Brother 7 - Sezer is evicted on Day 16: 4.9m (percentage unavailable)

Big Brother 5 - Day 20 highlights: 6.5m (35.3%)
Big Brother 7 - Day 21 highlights: 4.6m (20.3%)
Same day of the week but different day numbers due to BB7's Thursday launch

Big Brother 5 - Michelle is evicted on Day 64: 6.3m (30.3%)
Big Brother 7 - Jayne is evicted on Day 65: 4.6 (24.6%)

Big Brother 5 - Finale part 2: 8.3m (41.2%) with a peak of 9.0m (47.8%)
Big Brother 7 - Finale part 2: 7.7m (39.0%) with a peak of 8.2m (percentage unavailable)
This means that more people cared about who won BB5 than BB7, espeically since we knew who the winner would be in BB7 from before Day 1 as the producers let out about Pete and that they knew that he would win for some stupid reason because the voting public knows nothing about who should win Big Brother.

[farhad]

Originally posted by geoking66
Farhad, I'm going to summarise your statements. During out viewing and statistical analysis, BB5 without a doubt had higher ratings than BB7 did, which means that to an extent it was more popular with the public. Think of it this way, the BB5 finale peaked at 9m viewers, the BB7 one peaked at 8.2m only to see the most boring and insipid housemate of the series win. You also only compared the viewing figures until Nikki was evicted on Day 58, trying to prove a point that we have still invalidated. Even the text that you wrote disproved you point. You wrote that BB5 had higher ratings yet you still said that it was more successful in that category. That makes absolutely no sense.

Farhad, you believe that ratings are the only measure of the public's opinion toward a series. I'll take BB6 as an example. Despite getting 4.4m viewers as a whole, BB6 is widely regarded as one of the best series of the show, especially by BBUK fans. The number doesn't mean much, rather the viewing percentage means more. BB6 had lower numbers, but still got around 20% of the viewing audience. That's around the same as BB7, again I've invalidated your statement. By the way, one of the main reasons that BB7 got big ratings was because of the success of CBB4. It upped the hype for Big Brother after the "fiasco" that Channel 4 faced after BB6's ratings.

I'll challenge that (espeically the finale comment):

Big Brother 5 - Launch night: 6.7m (34.7%) with a peak of 7.2m (37.6%)
Big Brother 7 - Launch night: 6.9m (30.6%) with a peak of 8.1m (36.7%)
Note that although BB7 had more actual viewers, more television watchers watched BB5 on its launch night. Again, as any person who understands ratings will tell you, the percentage is more important.

Big Brother 5 - Emma and Michelle move to the bedsit on Day 15: 5.9m (28.2%)
Big Brother 7 - Sezer is evicted on Day 16: 4.9m (percentage unavailable)

Big Brother 5 - Day 20 highlights: 6.5m (35.3%)
Big Brother 7 - Day 21 highlights: 4.6m (20.3%)
Same day of the week but different day numbers due to BB7's Thursday launch

Big Brother 5 - Michelle is evicted on Day 64: 6.3m (30.3%)
Big Brother 7 - Jayne is evicted on Day 65: 4.6 (24.6%)

Big Brother 5 - Finale part 2: 8.3m (41.2%) with a peak of 9.0m (47.8%)
Big Brother 7 - Finale part 2: 7.7m (39.0%) with a peak of 8.2m (percentage unavailable)
This means that more people cared about who won BB5 than BB7, espeically since we knew who the winner would be in BB7 from before Day 1 as the producers let out about Pete and that they knew that he would win for some stupid reason because the voting public knows nothing about who should win Big Brother.

you got it wrong, my calcualtion was, adding all the days rating for each week and getting a total for that week and then doing the same for other weeks, and then getting totals for 8 weeks , you just calculated the two eviction days, and the final night, try and read my calculation post again. for example, day 1 has 4m viewers tune in, day 2 has 5m, day 3, has 6m, day 4 has 4m, day 5 had 5m, day 6 has 3m, and day 7 has 4m, adding all those figures come to a total of 31 million for the week.

[geoking66]

That's not how you calculate ratings. You average them out. Week 1 for BB5 vs BB7 can't work because there was one extra show during BB7's Week 1 because it started on a Thursday.

[geoking66]

If you did average them, BB5 actually wins with 4.42m in Week 1 while BB7 gets 4.40m viewers. Sorry to break it to you.

[farhad]

Originally posted by geoking66
If you did average them, BB5 actually wins with 4.42m in Week 1 while BB7 gets 4.40m viewers. Sorry to break it to you.

Ok I may of got it wrong, but you calculation shows, BB7 wasn't far behind BB5 I calculated the peaked at. I dont see why thursdays part cannot be included, it doesn't say in the rule books.

[farhad]

I'm not sure though if we will ever see a BB again that doesn't contain a few dull housemates. There were some dull housemates in BB5, but look what happened on fight night? I think they are now trying to avoid that ever happening again, by putting some normal people in as well to calm things down.

I mean, imagine how good BB7 would have been if this was the original line up:

Ash
Grace
Jayne
Lea
Lisa
Nikki
Mikey
Richard
Sezer
Shahbaz
Spiral

It would have been brilliant! Can you imagine what would have happened if Spiral and Lisa had met each other!!

[no1bigbrofan]

DEFO

[Captain.Remy]

No way, BB7 was a disapointing series.
-First of all, the cast. Yes with all the people with mental disorders as Nikki, Pete, Lea and Shabbaz, it was a big problem. The show was just ridiculous and pathetic with them, even not crazy or mad, it was "Big Disorder" because between the Nikki's tantrum, the Pete's behaviours and Shabaz making his show, it was crap.
-Later, we had Aisleyne, Jayne, Sam and Spiral. The show was ended for good, the HND was definatly the thing who makes BB7 as a weird season.
But before that, all the good characters were evicted at the beginning as Nikki, Grace , Sezer and Lisa. We had no more entertainment.
-Finally, we all knew the winner, Pete, it ruined the show, we all knew it was obvious and the other housemates had no chance to win.
-The twists were rubbish too, between the "deal or no deal" task, the HND and the housemates back. It was not fun at all.

BB5 was definatly the best of all, it was a new generation of BB, with twists, evil and outrageous people, funny, entertaining. We had the "fight night" and the "under the table" sex between Michelle and Stuart. BB5 gave the best diary room entries with the "Lady Garden" and the Silent protest.
The twists were brilliant with the Fake eviction the susprise eviction and the Army task twist.

[farhad]

Hey Nikki was funny, especially in the diary, Nikki's impersonation cannot be matched, plus Nikki did not have mental disorder, she had anorexia.

[Stu]

Originally posted by farhad
Hey Nikki was funny, especially in the diary, Nikki's impersonation cannot be matched, plus Nikki did not have mental disorder, she had anorexia.

Which is a mental disorder.

[farhad]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Thats your opinion, Nikki was funny for the first what 2 weeks.

8 weeks, watch some of her diary room clips after two weeks, and it will all be there, Suzie imitation, Who is she "fat ox", all of these classic entries were after two weeks, now stop blabbering.

[Stu]

Originally posted by farhad

8 weeks, watch some of her diary room clips after two weeks, and it will all be there, Suzie imitation, Who is she "fat ox", all of these classic entries were after two weeks, now stop blabbering.

How about you stop blaberring? potentialsuperstar obviously does not think as highly about Nikki as you do.

[farhad]

Originally posted by Stu

Which is a mental disorder.

you cannont confuse mentally hanndicaps, to and Anorexia, which is totally different.

[Stu]

Originally posted by farhad

you cannont confuse mentally hanndicaps, to and Anorexia, which is totally different.

Im not confusing anything. Anorexia is a mental disorder.

[ThisIsMarie]

Originally posted by farhad
BB7 is the best ever, now BB7 haters just have to deal with it.

Exactly!

[Stu]

Originally posted by ThisIsMarie

Exactly!

But thats insane. how can we 'just deal with it'??? That statement complete overides any logic and is ignorant to any one persons sense of opinion!

[Captain.Remy]

I agree with Stu (for once it's a world first lol) we don't have to "deal with it". Each person has an opinion and there is not point to say "deal with it". In my opinion, BB5 has been so much better because it saved BB, we saw a different side of BB, the twists like the Bedsit, the mid-week eviction and the "evil" theme have been adopted in a lot of BB around the world. What about the Golden Key: yes in Australia and in Serbia ! And the BigBrotherHood ? Nowhere !
The most memorable moments are from BB5. It worked because the people were sexually and mentally with no limits, the characters were extreme.

BB7 brought some entertainment but only until week 6, after that it was just sad to see the "mental disorders" controling the game with their pathetic tantrums.

On TIBB, when I read that people who loved Pete and wanted him to win, regret that so much, it's terrible and I'm laughing. It was so obvious, for those people he was a phenomeon....yeah a phenomeon in a circus !

As you said earlier, "deal with it" BB5 is so much better it's like 1+1=2 !

[Stu]

Originally posted by sunshine30
I agree with Stu (for once it's a world first lol) we don't have to "deal with it". Each person has an opinion and there is not point to say "deal with it". In my opinion, BB5 has been so much better because it saved BB, we saw a different side of BB, the twists like the Bedsit, the mid-week eviction and the "evil" theme have been adopted in a lot of BB around the world. What about the Golden Key: yes in Australia and in Serbia ! And the BigBrotherHood ? Nowhere !
The most memorable moments are from BB5. It worked because the people were sexually and mentally with no limits, the characters were extreme.

BB7 brought some entertainment but only until week 6, after that it was just sad to see the "mental disorders" controling the game with their pathetic tantrums.

On TIBB, when I read that people who loved Pete and wanted him to win, regret that so much, it's terrible and I'm laughing. It was so obvious, for those people he was a phenomeon....yeah a phenomeon in a circus !

As you said earlier, "deal with it" BB5 is so much better it's like 1+1=2 !

give them a taste of their own medicine!!!