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rex3 · 28-07-2007, 01:06 PM

OK the ridicoulsness of reality is what causes me to post such boring posts, but I was reading this and couldnt believe that what happened to Iraq is happening NOW with Saudi Arabia.

The US sold billions worth of weapons to Iraq influencing it to go to war with Iran. Giving fake support!

Now the US is giving fake support to Saudi Arabia influencing them to go to war with Iran, (so they wouldnt have to)????

If the Saudi are as stupid as Hussein was then **** this world! *side note, What do you think of America, with all this?

Now

Quote:

ref: http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id...onid=351020205

US to sell arms to Saudis, PG states
Sat, 28 Jul 2007 10:12:08
Source: AFP

The US plans to conclude arms deals worth $2 bn with Saudi Arabia and other Persian Gulf states.
The US has planned a series of arms deals worth at least 20 billion dollars with Saudi Arabia and five other oil-rich Persian Gulf states.

The plan also includes new 10-year military aid packages to Israel and Egypt, said the Washington Post, citing unnamed US officials.

The arms deals, which include the sales of a variety of sophisticated weaponry, would be the largest negotiated by this administration, according to the Post.

The military assistance agreements would provide 30 billion dollars in new US aid to Israel and 13 billion to Egypt over 10 years, the paper said.

Officials said the arms sales to Saudi Arabia were expected to include air-to-air missiles as well as Joint Direct Attack Munitions, which turn standard bombs into "smart" precision-guided bombs, the report said.

"This is a big development, because it's part of a larger regional strategy and the maintenance of a strong US presence in the region," the Post quoted a senior administration official as saying.

The arms deals have quietly been under discussion for months despite US disappointment over Saudi Arabia's failure to support the Iraqi government and to bring Iraq's Sunni Muslims into the reconciliation process, the report said.

The administration's plans will be announced Monday in advance of trips next week to the Middle East by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Defense Secretary Robert Gates, the Post reported.

State Department and Pentagon officials had started briefing key members of Congress about their intentions over the past week, said the paper.

spacebandit · 29-07-2007, 12:07 AM

The Bush family has ties with the House of Saud going back at least as far as 1970.

The House if Saud has bribed its way into the auspices of succesive British and American Governments and institutions for nearly 40 years.

Saudi Arabia is not a democracy, far from it, it also has an appalling human rights record. The ruling family of Saudi Arabia practices a practical form of apartheid along the lines of a tribal caste system.

Do we invade them - the hell we do, they are our allies. But then supporting and strengthening friendly dictatorships has always been the American way - and ours, riding in on Uncle Sams coat-tails. Hell, the 1970's and 1980's were littered with tinpot dictators put into power by american backed CIA orchestrated coups.

South America is littered with the unmarked graves of the murdered and the "disappeared".

The list of "friendly dictators" put into power by America and then supported by them is a list that should dismay and shame anyone who ever supports the american and british line of invading anywhere to supposedly bring peace to a country - because iof a repressive government

http://www.omnicenter.org/warpeaceco.../dictators.htm

then we look at 9/11.

We invade afghanistan - fair enough Bin Ladens organisation was supported and harboured by the Taliban.

Strange though, Bin Laden is actually Saudi Arabian, and even though 15 of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi Arabian, and Al Queda are supported almost completely Saudi Arabian and Pakistani money [according to the FBI and the CIA] do we invade Saudi Arabia or Pakistan - no, we do deals with Saudi Arabia, and support President Musharraf of Pakistan who took power in a military coup. Seems we like some dictators and not others.

So why didn't the americans go after Al Quedas money men in Saudi Arabia ?

Simple answer - President George Bush is not going to pursue with extreme prejudice some of the very men who made his own familys fortune

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/events/newsnight/1645527.stm

Quote:

PALAST:
Does the Bush family also have to worry about political blow-back? The younger Bush made his first million 20 years ago with an oil company partly funded by Salem Bin Laden's chief US representative. Young George also received fees as director of a subsidiary of Carlyle Corporation, a little known private company which has, in just a few years of its founding, become one of Americas biggest defence contractors. His father, Bush Senior, is also a paid advisor. And what became embarrassing was the revelation that the Bin Ladens held a stake in Carlyle, sold just after September 11.

ELSNER:
You have a key relationship between the Saudis and the former President of the US who happens to be the father of the current President of the US. And you have all sorts of questions about where does policy begin and where does good business and good profits for the company, Carlyle, end?

PALAST:
I received a phone call from a high-placed member of a US intelligence agency. He tells me that while there's always been constraints on investigating Saudis, under George Bush it's gotten much worse. After the elections, the agencies were told to "back off" investigating the Bin Ladens and Saudi royals, and that angered agents. I'm told that since September 11th the policy has been reversed. FBI headquarters told us they could not comment on our findings. A spokesman said: "There are lots of things that only the intelligence community knows and that no-one else ought to know.