[Glenn.]

Second house, housemates, twist? Production wise? What are your first initial thoughts about it all.

[joeysteele]

Really good for me, I am looking at BB differently now so hopefully that makes it more enjoyable for me.

Really good start however.

[Marsh.]

I want Rylan DEAD

[Glenn.]

Same, I think this year I've finally learned not to expect too much so I'm enjoying it for what it is. Can see a lot of improvements already which are great if the standard is kept up with.

[Visage]

Spectacular.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Same, I think this year I've finally learned not to expect too much so I'm enjoying it for what it is. Can see a lot of improvements already which are great if the standard is kept up with.

Same for me. I genuinely had no high expectations, and was prepared for it to be something a bit different, so I enjoyed it tbh

[Jamie89]

I mean it wasn't perfect but after last years show, this was a VAST improvement... so far obvs

[Goodbye Summer]

House/Set/Titles? Amazing

Housemates? Pretty good, best in a while, maybe one of the best casts on C5. Time will tell.

Twist? Meh.

[Lush]

I thought everything was great, except the stupid twist which has put my initial fave (Lateysha) up.

[Jarvio]

My thoughts on launch night is that it confirms my suicide attempt

[Drew.]

I'm positive about it all apart from Rylan

[zakman440]

The launch was brilliant, but I wasn't too keen on the twist. It feels like that "the game has changed" is the new "it's time for a Timebomb" or "you're about to go on a Power Trip" - basically, just the new excuse for them to throw another nominations twist in. I really want them to prove me wrong, but I feel like nothing is really going to change production-wise.

[Goodbye Summer]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Same, I think this year I've finally learned not to expect too much so I'm enjoying it for what it is. Can see a lot of improvements already which are great if the standard is kept up with.

Agreed. We just have to admit it will never be what it used to be, it had it's peak on C4. But this series looks to be a great step forward so far. The Twist is the only thing I wasn't huge on.

[Ross.]

Really like the cast despite majority being semi-famous already

[Goodbye Summer]

Originally Posted by Ross.

Really like the cast despite majority being semi-famous already

Yeah, I like 'normal people' as much as the next guy, but if they are entertaining I couldn't give two ****s tbh.

[Samm]

I like the cast, way better then the previous two series

[Guuki]

The game hasn't changed that much. Second house is just like a bigger version of secret rooms from previous series, where the others spy on the rest of the housemates. Targeting is similar to what we had in Power Trip. I'm kinda disappointed on everything tonight, except live show set - which is stunning. And I like the idea of the Others not being an actual housemates, trying to get their place in the main house. That can be interesting. The rest though ruined my hopes of BB17 becoming the best series ever.

[fitz2k2]

restart ?psssh restart is using normal housemates not 3 reality show girls ughhhhhhh

[RichardG]

would rather some more normal housemates but the live set/house/all that stuff was soooooo good, much improved

[reece(:]

Good but still need to know more, they've barely told us anything

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Good but still need to know more, they've barely told us anything

lol it's actually annoying me at this point. Rylan two weeks ago 'we're gonna tell you everything next week!' and it was that there were two houses. Rylan a few days later 'we're gonna tell you everything tonight!', when it was the 'the others are coming' trailer. Rylan the other night 'we'll tell you everything on launch!' and here I am and I still don't know anything I ****ing didn't two weeks ago

The problem I have is that it just screams of them being overly secretive like they have been for years which allows them to just manipulate things. I miss the C4 days where us the viewers were actually told what to expect, now we're just as in the dark

[Marsh.]

The more Emma banged on about the "others" the more I didn't understand.

I'm more confused now than when we just had the trailer to go on.

[Rob!]

I'm REALLY excited and I haven't been about civilian BB this much in years. So yeah I guess that means I loved pretty much all of it. The messy stairs at the end though need sorting.

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Jack_

lol it's actually annoying me at this point. Rylan two weeks ago 'we're gonna tell you everything next week!' and it was that there were two houses. Rylan a few days later 'we're gonna tell you everything tonight!', when it was the 'the others are coming' trailer. Rylan the other night 'we'll tell you everything on launch!' and here I am and I still don't know anything I ****ing didn't two weeks ago

The problem I have is that it just screams of them being overly secretive like they have been for years which allows them to just manipulate things. I miss the C4 days where us the viewers were actually told what to expect, now we're just as in the dark

Just repeating dark ominous force and others all night got me nowhere further forward. We don't even know if the nominations were pointless or nah.

[Marsh.]

It's definitely a case of them testing the waters and not confirming anything so the producers can see who's doing what in there and get to know them in that dynamic a little bit before deciding who the twist is going to benefit.

I thought at least they'd move the nominated housemates into the other house. But no.