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Garfie · 18-06-2016, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa

He probably has mates, but he needs better ones.

You reap what you sow ........

Vanessa · 18-06-2016, 02:07 PM

This thread is getting way too personal. I don't like the way it's going. We should all respect each others views. But this never happens and inevitably things go too far. I won't deny I feel upset for the gloating. But I think we should just move on. I'm sure Marco has the support of his family, weather they were on BB or not.

Nicky91 · 18-06-2016, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa

This thread is getting way too personal. I don't like the way it's going. We should all respect each others views. But this never happens and inevitably things go too far. I won't deny I feel upset for the gloating. But I think we should just move on. I'm sure Marco has the support of his family, weather they were on BB or not.

I agree with you Vanessa, i also want more respect for each other's opinions

also respect for each other's favourites, some fair play on the forum

Garfie · 18-06-2016, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by hot2go

I think she's far too ocd and would drive me mad if I was there. Everything has to be prim and proper or she will kick off. I would tell her to piss off to be honest

Irony!

This is doing exactly what you are criticising others for doing, and exactly what you said you would never do in your last post!

I'm totally baffled!

Garfie · 18-06-2016, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91

I apologize about being nasty about Marco, he seemed really genuine on his exit interview

please don't go through with your campaign to get Georgina out, it would really make me upset

I really didn't want Marco to leave, i really wanted Laura to be evicted, but Ryan failed his task, and she was immune from eviction

You are entitled to your point of view- please stop feeling forced into having to back track or apologise for it as if stating your own view is wrong.

Natalie. · 18-06-2016, 02:31 PM

I did feel a bit bad for him
He was coming across a little bit better in the last few episodes, I think he could have been a good housemate if he dropped the front

Vanessa · 18-06-2016, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Natalie.

I did feel a bit bad for him
He was coming across a little bit better in the last few episodes, I think he could have been a good housemate if he dropped the front

Yes, it's a shame. He was calming down and starting to make friends. Liked his convo with Andy. He listed to what he had to say.

Vicky. · 18-06-2016, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Natalie.

I did feel a bit bad for him
He was coming across a little bit better in the last few episodes, I think he could have been a good housemate if he dropped the front

He came across much better before they had him pissed. On a daytime he was (usually) remarkably calm compared to the whirlwind he became after a few drinks.

Nicky91 · 18-06-2016, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Garfie

You are entitled to your point of view- please stop feeling forced into having to back track or apologise for it as if stating your own view is wrong.

it was because Vanessa said she was making plans of campaigning to get Georgina out, well i would be really against that, she doesn't deserve to leave just yet, even if the main house loses the battle of the houses, i still think Laura and Emma are more up for eviction in my opinion

and my apologizing is because i'm a bit insecure about having a favourite, which i'm Always passionate about

Vanessa · 18-06-2016, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky.

He came across much better before they had him pissed. On a daytime he was (usually) remarkably calm compared to the whirlwind he became after a few drinks.

Yes, he did say he gets naughty after drinking

Garfie · 18-06-2016, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross.

Did I say that?

You said "I don't spout bile about her all the time. I don't waste my time" when clearly you do.

Exactly!! You are suggesting that others are in the wrong for doing so (and actually making them feel they have to apologise) but you are doing it repeatedly!! Hence, the irony mentioned in the posts I have made!

Garfie · 18-06-2016, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake.

Sorry, but it's not your "right" to forgive anyone in the first place. You're not a spokesperson for Marco, just like Nicky isn't one for Georgina. If I don't like a housemate I'm fully entitled to make that known, as are you and everybody else on this forum.

Garfie · 18-06-2016, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by hot2go

Exactly mate ...exactly....a thread for fans to reflect on a housemate who's been evicted ....a thread being contaminated by others who can no longer damage his place in the house so all they can achieve by coming here and being negative about Marco is to upset his fans for the fun of it.

I hate the fact that you are feeling upset. I think the thing is the title of the thread does not suggest to FMs that it is for Marco fans only- it suggests it's a discussion about the reason why there might have been no-one there to support Marco.

Although some people might have made posts to gloat, I am sure that the majority of FMs didn't come on here to contaminate it and upset his fans. I certainly didn't never entered this thread with that intention.

Garfie · 18-06-2016, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91

it was because Vanessa said she was making plans of campaigning to get Georgina out, well i would be really against that, she doesn't deserve to leave just yet, even if the main house loses the battle of the houses, i still think Laura and Emma are more up for eviction in my opinion

and my apologizing is because i'm a bit insecure about having a favourite, which i'm Always passionate about

Please never feel insecure about being passionate about something- you need to believe that your opinion is as valid as anyone else's, because it is. Be more confident, girl!

And I originally liked Georgina but have gone off her a bit now due to the moaning. I'm not fussed either way by Emma. I didn't like either Marco or Laura due to their behaviour, but I am interested to see more of Laura's character and how she might develop without Marco, but that's not saying I like or dislike her- I am withholding judgement until I've seen more.

Although I dislike much of Marco's behaviour, he seemed better when he was calmer last night and I did feel a little sad that he had chosen to do some of the things he did which resulted in his early eviction. And I would feel sad to think no-one was there for him, but I also think his behaviour and his lack of responsibility probably drives others away. I feel sad, too, as I see him almost as an Amy Winehouse character- a car crash waiting to happen- but I am hoping his early eviction and people's negativity towards him might be the best thing that could have happened to him, as it might make him confront himself and make the changes he needs to in order to have a happier life.

These are my opinions- they are not right or wrong, as that is the very nature of opinions. However, I have the right to express them, and to change them as more information becomes available, just as you have the right to also. Never forget that.

We can also like people but not their behaviour, just as we can dislike people but find some of their behaviour amusing. People are not black and white, but are more complex, and that's why opinions will differ. The thing is no-one can say your opinions are wrong, especially when you can give valid evidence for having them.

The main point is don't be pushed into doubting yourself or apologising when you make valid opinions that others don't agree with. My opinions differ to yours, but I would never make you feel pressured into changing them or apologising for them, or threaten to target your favourite as you had made a negative observation about my favourite! I'd hope we would just respect each other's views, and agree to differ! I just want you to believe in your views, and stand up for yourself and what you believe!

And that's the end of the Garfie advice for today!

Nicky91 · 18-06-2016, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Garfie

Please never feel insecure about being passionate about something- you need to believe that your opinion is as valid as anyone else's, because it is. Be more confident, girl!

And I originally liked Georgina but have gone off her a bit now due to the moaning. I'm not fussed either way by Emma. I didn't like either Marco or Laura due to their behaviour, but I am interested to see more of Laura's character and how she might develop without Marco, but that's not saying I like or dislike her- I am withholding judgement until I've seen more.

Although I dislike much of Marco's behaviour, he seemed better when he was calmer last night and I did feel a little sad that he had chosen to do some of the things he did which resulted in his early eviction. And I would feel sad to think no-one was there for him, but I also think his behaviour and his lack of responsibility probably drives others away. I feel sad, too, as I see him almost as an Amy Winehouse character- a car crash waiting to happen- but I am hoping his early eviction and people's negativity towards him might be the best thing that could have happened to him, as it might make him confront himself and make the changes he needs to in order to have a happier life.

These are my opinions- they are not right or wrong, as that is the very nature of opinions. However, I have the right to express them, and to change them as more information becomes available, just as you have the right to also. Never forget that.

We can also like people but not their behaviour, just as we can dislike people but find some of their behaviour amusing. People are not black and white, but are more complex, and that's why opinions will differ. The thing is no-one can say your opinions are wrong, especially when you can give valid evidence for having them.

The main point is don't be pushed into doubting yourself or apologising when you make valid opinions that others don't agree with. My opinions differ to yours, but I would never make you feel pressured into changing them or apologising for them, or threaten to target your favourite as you had made a negative observation about my favourite! I'd hope we would just respect each other's views, and agree to differ! I just want you to believe in your views, and stand up for yourself and what you believe!

And that's the end of the Garfie advice for today!

first of all i'm a guy

, but it's my opinion that Georgina could be now one of the more interesting housemates, also my opinion that Evelyn is just dull and forgettable and i did not expect that, i really thought Evelyn could be a true diva

Glenn. · 18-06-2016, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

We've heard it all before though,its like it makes them feel better to slag him off,lol.the thread was about if there was anyone there for him

And the reason there wasn't anyone there for him is because I expect everyone that knows him wishes they didn't. Spoilt little rich kid who got a very well deserved reality check.

Maru · 18-06-2016, 04:58 PM

I feel bad for Marco's fiance Kim than I feel bad for Marco. If she and the family were not there on purpose then it is likely they are hoping this will be a lesson to him. I didn't think that family showing up though was obligatory... it is moreso for civilian BB, but this is more like a celebrity BB imo.

Do family always show?

y.winter · 18-06-2016, 05:11 PM

His fiance knows what he is all about, especially by letting him this whatever pass, I don't know why it should come as a surprise to her, it's not like it's off-character. Should we really feel sorry for her? He's not doctor Jekyll and mr Hyde.

llNicolall · 18-06-2016, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91

well you still have Georgina as your second favourite, right

Adjoa says other wise

Garfie · 18-06-2016, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91

first of all i'm a guy

, but it's my opinion that Georgina could be now one of the more interesting housemates, also my opinion that Evelyn is just dull and forgettable and i did not expect that, i really thought Evelyn could be a true diva

Whoops!! I'm so sorry! I think I wrongly assumed that because your friends had girls' names, and your name could be used for girls or guys!

Thanks for sharing your opinions

I hope Georgina comes good for you- I really did like her at the start, and found some of her comments really amusing. Maybe she will find people who cheer her up when the others are there, and then we will see this in her again. I wonder if she has been irritable and 'niggly' due to the stress of nominations and insecurity after Jackson left?

I thought the same about Evelyn- not at all like her VT suggested! I'm looking forward to seeing what happens when the others join the main house- I think this could make things very interesting!

Cherie · 18-06-2016, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Maru

I feel bad for Marco's fiance Kim than I feel bad for Marco. If she and the family were not there on purpose then it is likely they are hoping this will be a lesson to him. I didn't think that family showing up though was obligatory... it is moreso for civilian BB, but this is more like a celebrity BB imo.

Do family always show?

Not always family but someone even if it's just the agent

it's Emmss stock line at the end of the interview..go and see your friends and family in the audience

Incidentally I didn't make this thread to hack off any of Marcos fans, I made it as I felt it might be relevant to how Marco behaves, as he doesn't seem to have anyone who is grounding him, his Dad might be great though I don't think throwing quarter of a million at anyone to go and spend how you please is good parenting in anyone's book, and I just found it interesting that as social and all as Marco appears that no one turned up for him, that might have been arrogance on their part as maybe they didn't expect him to leave, that said no one phoned in for him on BOTs either apparently he had Chloe Jasmine advocating for him

Lstan · 18-06-2016, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

Were they not expecting him to come out, or not interested enough to support him, if the latter it's really sad really, he might be a massive knob but he's only 21 so has time to mature if he gets family support (and I don't mean money)

Think it was Emma who said marco didnt look like he expected to leave because he hadn't got dressed up for the eviction so maybe it was like you said? Or they changed the format for leaving now and his family was backstage? At least he made BB history tho thats something

y.winter · 18-06-2016, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Garfie

Please never feel insecure about being passionate about something- you need to believe that your opinion is as valid as anyone else's, because it is. Be more confident, girl!

And I originally liked Georgina but have gone off her a bit now due to the moaning. I'm not fussed either way by Emma. I didn't like either Marco or Laura due to their behaviour, but I am interested to see more of Laura's character and how she might develop without Marco, but that's not saying I like or dislike her- I am withholding judgement until I've seen more.

Although I dislike much of Marco's behaviour, he seemed better when he was calmer last night and I did feel a little sad that he had chosen to do some of the things he did which resulted in his early eviction. And I would feel sad to think no-one was there for him, but I also think his behaviour and his lack of responsibility probably drives others away. I feel sad, too, as I see him almost as an Amy Winehouse character- a car crash waiting to happen- but I am hoping his early eviction and people's negativity towards him might be the best thing that could have happened to him, as it might make him confront himself and make the changes he needs to in order to have a happier life.

These are my opinions- they are not right or wrong, as that is the very nature of opinions. However, I have the right to express them, and to change them as more information becomes available, just as you have the right to also. Never forget that.

We can also like people but not their behaviour, just as we can dislike people but find some of their behaviour amusing. People are not black and white, but are more complex, and that's why opinions will differ. The thing is no-one can say your opinions are wrong, especially when you can give valid evidence for having them.

The main point is don't be pushed into doubting yourself or apologising when you make valid opinions that others don't agree with. My opinions differ to yours, but I would never make you feel pressured into changing them or apologising for them, or threaten to target your favourite as you had made a negative observation about my favourite! I'd hope we would just respect each other's views, and agree to differ! I just want you to believe in your views, and stand up for yourself and what you believe!

And that's the end of the Garfie advice for today!