[GiRTh]

What do you think?

[armand.kay]

Both of them have been put in a situation that is less than ideal. Don't think either of them is the victim but I do feel more sorry for Charlie.

[GiRTh]

I'm sure I've spotted him looking at the camera a couple of times when she has tried to snuggle up to him. There is something a bit cynical Jason. Few relationships are as one sided as this seems.

[Speedster]

NO!! he's ********** not. He's a grown man who should know how handle himself but because stone age attitudes to women, Charlie is getting the lion's share of the blame. Hmmm where have we see that before I wonder...

[Vicky.]

Yes. he is in a horrible horrible situation. He really can't do right for doing wrong here. His options are

1. Completely **** her off. Come across a douche on TV, risk being hated for not comforting the poor woman who is desperate for his dick.

2. Do what he is doing now, which seems to be ignoring the situation as much as he can and hoping it goes away. Short of her being evicted on friday, this isn't happening

3. Get back together with her on the show, **** her off on the outside. Risk the stories being sold about how he used her and/or has trouble getting shot of her again.

4. Get back together with her on the show, continue the relationship outside despite not wanting to...and go through what he went through the first time. We don't know quite how toxic the relationship was, but its quite easy to guess from the snippets we have

He tried option 5 already by saying they would talk outside but there is no relationship in the house. this was ignored.

[Jordan.]

I think people forget she didn't know he was in there either, she hasn't gone in intentionally to try win him back on TV.

[LukeB]

None are victims

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

I think people forget she didn't know he was in there either, she hasn't gone in intentionally to try win him back on TV.

I don't believe this for one second

However, I don't blame Charlie for it either tbh. I blame BB. I don't think they should have opened up this hornets nest at all. Its not entertaining...its mean

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I don't believe this for one second

However, I don't blame Charlie for it either tbh. I blame BB. I don't think they should have opened up this hornets nest at all. Its not entertaining...its mean

I totally agree as per, vicky. you just made me realise who i'm gonna vote for in my last nom this week <3

[rusticgal]

Well he seems like a nice guy...Charlie has admitted she was nasty confirming what Jason has said.
She is desperate to get him back and prepared to fight tooth and nail to get what she wants...
I think it's a bit Katie Price/Peter Andre scenario. He's a great guy and she took advantage thinking she was the dogs bollocks...and could get away with murder. Now he has dumped her she realises she didn't appreciate him for what he was...

That's how I see it....because I personally wouldn't fight tooth or nail for someone who doesn't want me unless I knew I had been a complete and utter bitch...which is exactly what she has admitted.

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

I think people forget she didn't know he was in there either, she hasn't gone in intentionally to try win him back on TV.

This! Thinking about it Charlie has got the short end of the stick because no matter what he does Jason will come off as the hero and Charlie as the 'bunny boiler'...

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

This! Thinking about it Charlie has got the short end of the stick because no matter what he does Jason will come off as the hero and Charlie as the 'bunny boiler'...

Exactly. Hence the questions I'm posing. I dont think she can win either way .

[rionablue]

None of them are 'victims' they are both mature adults that were in a rather tempestuous relationship. From what I can gather Charlies neediness possesivement and jealousy turned Jason off her (now that is only HIS side of the story but he has aired it to some of the housemates). Charlie was put in there just like the other partners to try and stir the pot.

What Charlie should have done was play it cool. NOT SAY JASON I LOVE YOU TAKE ME BACK when she was revealed as one of the others. She could say she was Jasons ex alright but not be pleading with him. When she went into the main house yes of course give Jason a hug or ask him how he has been doing but then MINGLE with the others and not be CLINGING to Jason like a limpet. He should have been clearer with her also and said 'Hey lets enjoy the experience with the other housemates and we will talk at some stage'. Charlie is behaving like a teenage girl who wants to keep her boyfriend in line so he wont look at other women. SHE needs to GROW up and HE NEEDS to be STRAIGHT WITH HER

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Exactly. Hence the questions I'm posing. I dont think she can win either way .

She could have, if she didn't come on so bloody strong Dropping it now would probably gain a bit of popularity for her tbh. Spent the first few days going on about her bastard ex...and now is all over him like a rash.

I preferred her beforehand tbh. came across a very strong woman, a woman scorned, but a strong woman none the less. What we are seeing now, I don't want to see. This isn't particularly her *fault* as shes head over heels...I just don't want to see it and think jason is in a way worse position than she is.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Poor Charlie

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

She could have, if she didn't come on so bloody strong Dropping it now would probably gain a bit of popularity for her tbh. Spent the first few days going on about her bastard ex...and now is all over him like a rash.

I preferred her beforehand tbh. came across a very strong woman, a woman scorned, but a strong woman none the less. What we are seeing now, I don't want to see. This isn't particularly her *fault* as shes head over heels...I just don't want to see it and think jason is in a way worse position than she is.

Agree with you, but I think Jason cant lose . He'll be gallant no matter waht but I think there is a cynical side to him for sure. He seems more concerned with how he looks than how she feels.

They both admit she takes most of the blame for the relationship failure but theres a part of me that, kind of, admires her for still pursuing him. She needs to back off a bit but I cant see this ending well for her yet I see him coming out a hero.

[Razor]

He just wants to get away from her, nothing wrong with that.

[hot2go]

BB didn't put partners or friends together ... They put 3 stalkers in the house ... Charlie, Jayne and Ryan ... The women's behaviour and response appears to back that up .., however Ryan does not seem as guilty as was thought at start ... I'm no fan of his but I have watched him closely and I don't see any indication that what Sam accused him of is true ... I think just Sam expects every gay guy to want to be like him.... he's a snidely bloke

[tanussa]

charlie should back off & keep some dignity. its real bad to throw yourself at someone who clearly isnt interested

[bananarama]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

What do you think?

No. He is behaving like a childish whimp. Unable to have a mature conversation with her. Hope the so called BB fans are not silly enough to vote her out and kill off a storyline

I want to see the whimp suffer keep her in.

[Mokka]

I think Big Brother is at fault for putting them both in this situation... And I still have my suspicions as to whether they were both aware of it based on the amount of footage ahead of time that Production has of them talking about each other and the relationship...

But, assuming my suspicions are wrong, Charlie has admitted to being the destroyer of their relationship out side of the house.... Jason has only said things about her in the relationship that she herself has confirmed in her own words away from him... Jason knew she had applied for the show previously, and was up front from the beginning that she would be the last thing he wanted to see in the house, where as she is more than happy to exploit their past relationship for the show... Jason clearly is walking a tight rope now trying to keep things amicable until one of them leaves, not wanting to lead her on but not wanting to trigger her wrath which he clearly lives in fear of.

So assuming it isn't all an elaboratly produced scam.... Jason is the only victim of this situation.

[Lister of Smeg]

Jason can't really win in this situation he's trying to let her down gently but she isn't taking the hint he has massively underestimated how much she's obsessed with him.

[jennyjuniper]

Anyone who is on the wrong end of a 'bunny boiler' mentality is a victim and Charlie seems to be the bunny boiler type. If she has issues with rage, jealousy etc., she would do better to address them, before getting into a relationship with Jason or anyone else.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yes. he is in a horrible horrible situation. He really can't do right for doing wrong here. His options are

1. Completely **** her off. Come across a douche on TV, risk being hated for not comforting the poor woman who is desperate for his dick.

2. Do what he is doing now, which seems to be ignoring the situation as much as he can and hoping it goes away. Short of her being evicted on friday, this isn't happening

3. Get back together with her on the show, **** her off on the outside. Risk the stories being sold about how he used her and/or has trouble getting shot of her again.

4. Get back together with her on the show, continue the relationship outside despite not wanting to...and go through what he went through the first time. We don't know quite how toxic the relationship was, but its quite easy to guess from the snippets we have

He tried option 5 already by saying they would talk outside but there is no relationship in the house. this was ignored.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yes. he is in a horrible horrible situation. He really can't do right for doing wrong here. His options are

1. Completely **** her off. Come across a douche on TV, risk being hated for not comforting the poor woman who is desperate for his dick.

2. Do what he is doing now, which seems to be ignoring the situation as much as he can and hoping it goes away. Short of her being evicted on friday, this isn't happening

3. Get back together with her on the show, **** her off on the outside. Risk the stories being sold about how he used her and/or has trouble getting shot of her again.

4. Get back together with her on the show, continue the relationship outside despite not wanting to...and go through what he went through the first time. We don't know quite how toxic the relationship was, but its quite easy to guess from the snippets we have

He tried option 5 already by saying they would talk outside but there is no relationship in the house. this was ignored.

Basically this.

I do feel for Charlie though, it must be hard for her if she really does want him back so badly.

Jason is the victim though imo because he struggled to break off the relationship, he got on BB as a proper housemate and probably thought that would get him much needed time away from Charlie too them boom, she's there with him in an enclosed environment, needs constant reassurance by the looks of things and I imagine it will ruin his experience in the house.