[Vicky.]

Well it seems acceptable to be against 'those immigrants' now doesn't it really...given the huge support for Farage and cos campaign which rested largely on immigration factors.

I am not accusing everyone who voted out of being racist btw, but a LOT of people voted on immigration only. When leave won my facebook feed erupted into a disgusting show of racism...I am about 40 'friends' down tbh as I don't want to see that ****.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Well it seems acceptable to be against 'those immigrants' now doesn't it really...given the huge support for Farage and cos campaign which rested largely on immigration factors.

I am not accusing everyone who voted out of being racist btw, but a LOT of people voted on immigration only. When leave won my facebook feed erupted into a disgusting show of racism...I am about 40 'friends' down tbh as I don't want to see that ****.

Vicky

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Well it seems acceptable to be against 'those immigrants' now doesn't it really...given the huge support for Farage and cos campaign which rested largely on immigration factors.

I am not accusing everyone who voted out of being racist btw, but a LOT of people voted on immigration only. When leave won my facebook feed erupted into a disgusting show of racism...I am about 40 'friends' down tbh as I don't want to see that ****.

Queen.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Oh come on, this is a huge leap. It's just coincidence? The amount of casual racism I've heard since Friday is staggering, from people I'd never have expected it from. I've had a previously perfectly nice old gentleman start ranting about a black customer that it's because of "these Islam extremists" that Brexit is a good thing, we can "get rid of all that lot" finally. The other customer is a Christian from Africa... And genuinely one of our most laid back and friendly customers.

Just coincidence, I think not. The attitudes are clearly not new, they've been festering away in these people's grubby little heads all along, they just now feel like they have permission to pour their filth all over the streets.

As always though I'm quite happy with that. Makes it easier to know how to react to people when they're openly being scum rather than hiding it away.

Yes, voicing these kinds of views seems a lot more common over these past couple of days. Its sad really. The views were obviously there to begin with, but now they feel validated in actually sharing them

(Again, I realised my post came across wrong before, immigration being the reason for the out vote isn't necessarily racist. But those saying things like this, are)

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by arista

Please read this Great post by Ammi
Again
Everyone



2nd time I have done this

I agree with Ammi, the racism was always there, its just in these bigots minds, they've seen the leave vote as some sort of vindication of their racism. So they've become more vocal and dangerous.

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Well it seems acceptable to be against 'those immigrants' now doesn't it really...given the huge support for Farage and cos campaign which rested largely on immigration factors.

I am not accusing everyone who voted out of being racist btw, but a LOT of people voted on immigration only. When leave won my facebook feed erupted into a disgusting show of racism...I am about 40 'friends' down tbh as I don't want to see that ****.

Same and the argument I'm currently having on Facebook is going to result in another one.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Riley95

I do believe the whole "foreigners taking our jobs" is a bunch of BS when I went for a job interview there were some people from other countries and they never got through to the next round and I did...

Thing is, half say the 'foreigners are coming here and stealing our jobs'

Other half say 'foreigners are coming here to steal our benefits and they don't want to work'

It simply cannot be both. This kinda shows a lot of peoples prejudice towards immigrants, they literally can't do right for doing wrong. And I know coming across people with views like this is very common. And I think (again) at least 40-50% of the leave vote was because of this too.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Well it seems acceptable to be against 'those immigrants' now doesn't it really...given the huge support for Farage and cos campaign which rested largely on immigration factors.

I am not accusing everyone who voted out of being racist btw, but a LOT of people voted on immigration only. When leave won my facebook feed erupted into a disgusting show of racism...I am about 40 'friends' down tbh as I don't want to see that ****.

Really? Or are the reports simply the sort of thing that goes on every day from the relatively small number of bigoted pigs who actually live in this country.

[Shaun]

Yeah these sorts of incidents happen every day so are obviously going to be magnified post-Brexit. Just depressing how many people thought voting Leave would mean the arab immigrants would go Haven't seen too many examples of EU country migrants being attacked... although my hometown has a strong Polish population and there's a definite sense of "please go home" from some...

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Really? Or are the reports simply the sort of thing that goes on every day from the relatively small number of bigoted pigs who actually live in this country.

IMO yes, it is because of the vote.

Newcastle apparently had some kind of 'kick em all out' type rally thing today too

Racism will be more common now, or seem it. A lot of people are racist deep down but know better than to actually voice this. but now, I can't see those people holding back as sadly they think the out vote means their views are shared by half of the country...which I don't think (and hope isn't) true.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Yeah these sorts of incidents happen every day so are obviously going to be magnified post-Brexit. Just depressing how many people thought voting Leave would mean the arab immigrants would go Haven't seen too many examples of EU country migrants being attacked... although my hometown has a strong Polish population and there's a definite sense of "please go home" from some...

And the illegals..apparently. Which is a bit daft, as if illegals are caught they are deported anyway (or I think they are...being...illegal?) so this again will make no difference to the amount of those we actually have either.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

IMO yes, it is because of the vote.

Newcastle apparently had some kind of 'kick em all out' type rally thing today too

Racism will be more common now, or seem it. A lot of people are racist deep down but know better than to actually voice this. but now, I can't see those people holding back as sadly they think the out vote means their views are shared by half of the country...which I don't think (and hope isn't) true.

Of course those views aren't held by half the country. I very much doubt they are views held by many leaver voters, or remain voters come to that. Though unfortunately leave have all been branded raging racists.

[EspeonBB]

Originally Posted by Hayden

I don't think it's "on the rise", it's always been there - but now people feel they have more of a right to air their racist views.

I doubt the fact that we've voted out the EU would make anyone suddenly become a racist - you've either always have been one and just not voiced it until now, or you aren't one. Sadly most racist groups like Britain First etc were on the leave side, so leave winning will just give them more of a platform to incite their hatred.

I agree with this

Racist scum will never change. Luckily I live in an area where there isn't much racism/xenophobia but I feel for immigrants who do

[user104658]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Of course those views aren't held by half the country. I very much doubt they are views held by many leaver voters, or remain voters come to that. Though unfortunately leave have all been branded raging racists.

That's not really true though, is it, and that sort of hyperbole is hardly helpful.

It's very likely that a significant portion of leave voters were fuelled by casual racism but no one is saying "all" or even "most" or "half". Just a significant portion.

[empire]

For 50 years, the people here where never given any say on how high the immigration numbers would be at, and to mps who want it at high numbers , only threw this problem to areas that people said no, high immigration kills integration, and today in towns, cities, and even on housing estates, no-go-area's are there, its not just here in britain, but in western europe its a big problem, in germany school girls who where attacked by refugees, where told by the police, too not say anything to the media, this is striaght out of the rotherham book, and merkel knew of the dangers, but stuck two fingers at her voters, when thatcher in 79 said that people fear that we are being swamped by people of a different culture or race, what she said was, listen and take note, nigel farage is doing the same thing, in working class area's, because both parties don't care, or listen to the problems that causes a racial divide, the brexit vote had many reasons, but some in the remain camp, want another vote because they think that having no borders, and not being a nation makes everything better,

[bots]

Originally Posted by empire

For 50 years, the people here where never given any say on how high the immigration numbers would be at, and to mps who want it at high numbers , only threw this problem to areas that people said no, high immigration kills integration, and today in towns, cities, and even on housing estates, no-go-area's are there, its not just here in britain, but in western europe its a big problem, in germany school girls who where attacked by refugees, where told by the police, too not say anything to the media, this is striaght out of the rotherham book, and merkel knew of the dangers, but stuck two fingers at her voters, when thatcher in 79 said that people fear that we are being swamped by people of a different culture or race, what she said was, listen and take note, nigel farage is doing the same thing, in working class area's, because both parties don't care, or listen to the problems that causes a racial divide, the brexit vote had many reasons, but some in the remain camp, want another vote because they think that having no borders, and not being a nation makes everything better,

but the free movement rules from the EU have only been in effect a relatively short time. For 40 years governments were in charge of immigration levels and people were still moaning about them then

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

That's not really true though, is it, and that sort of hyperbole is hardly helpful.

It's very likely that a significant portion of leave voters were fuelled by casual racism but no one is saying "all" or even "most" or "half". Just a significant portion.

You've just insinuated it yourself.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Well it seems acceptable to be against 'those immigrants' now doesn't it really...given the huge support for Farage and cos campaign which rested largely on immigration factors.

I am not accusing everyone who voted out of being racist btw, but a LOT of people voted on immigration only. When leave won my facebook feed erupted into a disgusting show of racism...I am about 40 'friends' down tbh as I don't want to see that ****.

Well said Vicky and you are one of many I'd say that found that.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by jaxie

You've just insinuated it yourself.

Stating that a significant proportion, specifically far less than half, have those tendencies - in other words stating definitively that more than half are NOT racist, is insinuating that "all" ARE racist? Logic has failed here.

[Kizzy]

Isn't it crackers these people who insist they are not influenced by the right wing media.....a year or so ago on this very forum it was insisted 'we need Eastern Europeans as they do the jobs people here won't do!' Now it's flipped 180 and suddenly we don't want immigrunts again.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Isn't it crackers these people who insist they are not influenced by the right wing media.....a year or so ago on this very forum it was insisted 'we need Eastern Europeans as they do the jobs people here won't do!' Now it's flipped 180 and suddenly we don't want immigrunts again.

Bennybobs claimants can do those jobs for Ł2 an hour.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Well it seems acceptable to be against 'those immigrants' now doesn't it really...given the huge support for Farage and cos campaign which rested largely on immigration factors.

I am not accusing everyone who voted out of being racist btw, but a LOT of people voted on immigration only. When leave won my facebook feed erupted into a disgusting show of racism...I am about 40 'friends' down tbh as I don't want to see that ****.

Sigh


E V I D E N C E??

[Crimson Dynamo]

Sick and tired of sample size one

Thinking fact

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Sick and tired of sample size one

Thinking fact

I'm sorry you are being equated to a sample :HeHe:

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

And how will this change?... as stated almost immediately immigration will carry on so what was the point if that's all anyone was bothered about?

If you have ever deeply researched 'Immigration and The UK' or regularly watched programmes on immigration - such as 'Immigration Undercover', 'Illegal Immigrant and Proud', 'The Truth About Immigration' etc, or the excellent 'Border Force UK', you will soon come to realise, that:

a) The British Government does not KNOW how many LEGAL IMMIGRANTS' are in the UK.

b) The British Government does not know how many ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS are in the UK

c) The UK Border Agency make very little difference to the numbers of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS entering the UK, and have even less of an impact in ensuring that those they do catch are removed or 'secured', because - under the absurd EU laws - the greater percentage of detected illegal immigrants are simply placed in open accomodation in London (paid for by the UK taxpayer) and simply told 'not to abscond'.

It is NOT the Immigrants to blame - it is the Government and the system.

Out of the EU, we can and will, repeal all the inane EU laws which have rendered it nigh impossible for us to control immigration, and unfettered immigration will be reduced and more thorough policing of our ports and airports will be initiated.

Immigration may have been high on the list of the concerns of a lot of people who voted to 'Leave' the EU, but it is not the ONLY concern, and I do not believe at all, that 'immigration is all anyone was bothered about'.