[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

A fishbowl init and Hughie furking the furking fishbowl apparently

Oh my

[y.winter]

I'm glad to know that I'm not the only one who couldn't understand what was it all about.
It's sad how alcohol plays a major part in their lives.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by y.winter

I'm glad to know that I'm not the only one who couldn't understand what was it all about.
It's sad how alcohol plays a major part in their lives.

Fact one.
On dishing out the alcohol sam alex and chelsea put theirs together into a fishbowl because they like to down their drinks asap, ryan wanted to join in but they said no because he was sick when he did it the last time..


Fact two
Ryan left slightly put out and went back to the bedroom where he told latyesha that "they" were not allowed....the first lie as they said "he" wasn't.


Fact three
All that seemed forgotten about because sam went into the bedroom to ask if there was a problem, he got three answers from hughie ryan and latyesha all saying no, there was no problem.


Fact four
Sam then went out into the garden and spun a fairy tale about how there was a problem to Alex, the second lie.


Fact five
Alex went back to the bedroom to confront ryan but asked a sweeping statement to the room if there was a problem.


Fact six
A bit of shouting happened which included alex telling hughie to shut up and mind his own business. Hughie did just that and let sam, teesh alex and ryan have a back and forth argument that was just insults really..it all seemed to have blown over when hughie decided it was now his turn to have his say and his argument was with alex and his hypocrisy of telling hughie to mind his own business when he himself had done the same thing in a previous argument...hughie was in control if a bit loud and shouty but was only putting his side of things to alex when bb called him.



Fact seven
Bb only calling him was what triggered his initial rage,then the direct provocation from alex calling him a boy or kid as he smirked and waved at hughie infuriated him more.



Fact eight.
There was no reason for bb to get involved initially and they caused this.

[y.winter]

Originally Posted by parmnion

hughie was in control if a bit loud and shouty

a bit loud? a bit shouty?
He wasn't physically freaking out?

It really doesn't matter who's in the right and who's the wrong. BB didn't "take side", that's not why they call hm to the DR. Hughie went from 0 to 100 in a second and it's not the first time it happens. He has some serious anger management issues.
Even if Alex was purely teasing him, he wasn't shouting and standing on the bed like maniac.
Hughie could disagree with him and call him names and whatever, fair enough - but he clearly doesn't know how to do it in a reasonable way.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by y.winter

a bit loud? a bit shouty?
He wasn't physically freaking out?

It really doesn't matter who's in the right and who's the wrong. BB didn't "take side", that's not why they call hm to the DR. Hughie went from 0 to 100 in a second and it's not the first time it happens. He has some serious anger management issues.
Even if Alex was purely teasing him, he wasn't shouting and standing on the bed like maniac.
Hughie could disagree with him and call him names and whatever, fair enough - but he clearly doesn't know how to do it in a reasonable way.

You are missing the point that everything you just described happening happened AFTER bb had singled out Hughie by only calling him to the diary room.

Thats when he became angry due to being frustrated.

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Fact one.
On dishing out the alcohol sam alex and chelsea put theirs together into a fishbowl because they like to down their drinks asap, ryan wanted to join in but they said no because he was sick when he did it the last time..


Fact two
Ryan left slightly put out and went back to the bedroom where he told latyesha that "they" were not allowed....the first lie as they said "he" wasn't.


Fact three
All that seemed forgotten about because sam went into the bedroom to ask if there was a problem, he got three answers from hughie ryan and latyesha all saying no, there was no problem.


Fact four
Sam then went out into the garden and spun a fairy tale about how there was a problem to Alex, the second lie.


Fact five
Alex went back to the bedroom to confront ryan but asked a sweeping statement to the room if there was a problem.


Fact six
A bit of shouting happened which included alex telling hughie to shut up and mind his own business. Hughie did just that and let sam, teesh alex and ryan have a back and forth argument that was just insults really..it all seemed to have blown over when hughie decided it was now his turn to have his say and his argument was with alex and his hypocrisy of telling hughie to mind his own business when he himself had done the same thing in a previous argument...hughie was in control if a bit loud and shouty but was only putting his side of things to alex when bb called him.



Fact seven
Bb only calling him was what triggered his initial rage,then the direct provocation from alex calling him a boy or kid as he smirked and waved at hughie infuriated him more.



Fact eight.
There was no reason for bb to get involved initially and they caused this.

EXCELLENT post Parmy. You have to go to the top of the class for paying attention and brilliantly documenting the storm in a teacup

[y.winter]

Originally Posted by parmnion

You are missing the point that everything you just described happening happened AFTER bb had singled out Hughie by only calling him to the diary room.

Thats when he became angry due to being frustrated.

you even said "hughie decided it was now his turn to have his say and his argument" and then it was when it kicked off. Hughie thrives having his say (=shout) and he doesn't know doing it calmly or even shouting from his bed without the thug-standing-in-your-face attitude.
Alex told him to shut up and tried stop him from going further to Sam because he already knows how Hughie is and that he's clearly going out of proportion and loses his temper once again. He could have rephrased it as "calm down" instead of "shut up", but Hughie would have taken it the same way.

Here, have a look, 29:56.

Youtube video

[Captain.Remy]

At least irrelevant Alex got 2.4 seconds of camera time. He should thank Sam, to be frank.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by y.winter

you even said "hughie decided it was now his turn to have his say and his argument" and then it was when it kicked off. Hughie thrives having his say (=shout) and he doesn't know doing it calmly or even shouting from his bed without the thug-standing-in-your-face attitude.
Alex told him to shut up and tried stop him from going further to Sam because he already knows how Hughie is and that he's clearly going out of proportion and loses his temper once again. He could have rephrased it as "calm down" instead of "shut up", but Hughie would have taken it the same way.

Here, have a look, 29:56.

Youtube video

See, you are as bad as bb by ASSUMING hughie would have taken it the wrong way

Tell me one thing, when you watch the video that doesn't play, when alex tells hughie to shut up and mind his business, does he?

I think you wlill find he does, but then when he gets his chance he has his say and was in the middle of nailing the whole sorry episode on the head when bb pulled him for no reason than his voice was loud, it wasnt even as bad as sam and ryans slanging match fgs.

[arista]

Originally Posted by y.winter

you even said "hughie decided it was now his turn to have his say and his argument" and then it was when it kicked off. Hughie thrives having his say (=shout) and he doesn't know doing it calmly or even shouting from his bed without the thug-standing-in-your-face attitude.
Alex told him to shut up and tried stop him from going further to Sam because he already knows how Hughie is and that he's clearly going out of proportion and loses his temper once again. He could have rephrased it as "calm down" instead of "shut up", but Hughie would have taken it the same way.

Here, have a look, 29:56.

Youtube video

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[Beso]

Originally Posted by rionablue

EXCELLENT post Parmy. You have to go to the top of the class for paying attention and brilliantly documenting the storm in a teacup

Thanks pal.

[y.winter]

Originally Posted by parmnion

See, you are as bad as bb by ASSUMING hughie would have taken it the wrong way

Tell me one thing, when you watch the video that doesn't play, when alex tells hughie to shut up and mind his business, does he?

I think you wlill find he does, but then when he gets his chance he has his say and was in the middle of nailing the whole sorry episode on the head when bb pulled him for no reason than his voice was loud, it wasnt even as bad as sam and ryans slanging match fgs.

First of all, no need to use the "you're as bad as...".

I'm not interested in Hughie nor in Alex (and I even dislike Sam).I'm not even taking sides in this stupid argument. I couldn't care less about any of them three, tbh. In the video, which is still available for me anyway (out side of the uk, but you can watch it on demand), Hughie starts shouting his point of view. Fair enough. Then he stands up, raising his voice even more and going to Sam's direction throwing his hands here and there. At this point Alex tells him to shut up (as I said, he could rephrase it, but still no reason to lose it) and tries to block him with his hand and puts it on his shoulder to make him move away from raging further more, while Hughie's sticking fingers at Alex. All this time Alex stands quite calmly, barely raising his voice and Sam lies on the bed.
Hughie's dealing with the situation and expressing his disagreement is irrational. It's not the first time. He threw a few tantrums back when he was in the other house. 0 to 100 here, 0 to 100 there. It's not healthy and it's disturbingly irrational. Had he responded with the same content but from his bed and not coming in people's face, fair enough - valid argument.

[Beso]

I still cant see any reason for bb pulling him to the diary room..the only reason i can see is the fact he is a traveller and their reputation proceeds them, its unfair persecution, nothing more, nothing less.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Josy

Did you even watch though

Can You Watch it Again Please


Its all about Booze
and then the Irish fella - Lost it.


if you watch it - do not lay down
Sit Up - stay awake Josy
with respect

[arista]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I still cant see any reason for bb pulling him to the diary room..the only reason i can see is the fact he is a traveller and their reputation proceeds them, its unfair persecution, nothing more, nothing less.

BB has the Right
to Remove any member
its in the RULES


It makes it a Great Show


Well Done
Viacom/CH5HD/Endemol
I thank you all.

[y.winter]

I don't see how him being a traveler has anything to do with it. Come on, it's not like he was a little ballerina throwing snowflakes around the bedroom singing "let it go". He was fuming - be it for right or wrong reasons. I have zero conception or misconception about travelers, since I heard it for the first time this series, and I can see why he should have been removed from the situation to calm down (which he really needed, again, regardless to being right or wrong). They didn't issue him with a warning or something, they separated them from him and him from them. If anything, Hughie gets more love over this from the audience.

[Beso]

http://bigbrother.channel5.com/hughi...ut-alex-day-24

Although its just a snippet, it shows hughies calmness as he gets his point across...listen to alex goading him but also listen to hughie tell the smarmy wanker what it is thats bothering him.

[Will.]

Originally Posted by Josy

You know whats really weird, I sat and watched and yet I ave no idea what they were arguing about

Literally me.

[y.winter]

Well done, if he spoke like that the whole time in the bedroom - acceptable, nothing wrong with that. But even than he couldn't take it all without breaking in the end. Even Ryan, who adores him, tells him right in the beginning not to kick off - even he knows how Hughie can be like when debating on something.
Hughie needs to learn that if he sees that he can't take an argument in a sane manner or just put an end to it if it doesn't go anywhere, he should pull himself out of the situation, easy as that. It's not admitting that he's wrong, it's knowing when to stop.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by y.winter

Well done, if he spoke like that the whole time in the bedroom - acceptable, nothing wrong with that. But even than he couldn't take it all without breaking in the end. Even Ryan, who adores him, tells him right in the beginning not to kick off - even he knows how Hughie can be like when debating on something.
Hughie needs to learn that if he sees that he can't take an argument in a sane manner or just put an end to it if it doesn't go anywhere, he should pull himself out of the situation, easy as that. It's not admitting that he's wrong, it's knowing when to stop.

So what broke him in the end?

Alex...no
Sam....no
Bb singling him out and calling him to the diary room...yes.

[y.winter]

Originally Posted by parmnion

So what broke him in the end?

Alex...no
Sam....no
Bb singling him out and calling him to the diary room...yes.

I'm talking about the video from BB website. Jason pulled him out of the situation.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by y.winter

I'm talking about the video from BB website. Jason pulled him out of the situation.

Why though, there was no reason to do that either. I didnt hear alex pipe up to jason to tell him to mind his own business, which is hypocritical considering that was his original beef with hughie.

[sungrass]

Originally Posted by rionablue

For as long as I remember when Big Brother gives the housemates alcohol there is ALWAYS some kind of argument or blowout. Even the smallest amount of drink goes to their heads. I am sure they can drink double or triple that amount outside the house and not have such stupid bloody strops.

I read - BB by law cant provide them with anymore booze than the Gov recommended units per week!!! so thats 2 vodkas for girls and 3 for boys! Thats why they scrap for every drop because they arent given enough to chill and relax!

And its also why they mix all the drinks together - to try and get drunker from them...

[Josy]

Originally Posted by arista

Can You Watch it Again Please


Its all about Booze
and then the Irish fella - Lost it.


if you watch it - do not lay down
Sit Up - stay awake Josy
with respect

Shut up Arista

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Fact one.
On dishing out the alcohol sam alex and chelsea put theirs together into a fishbowl because they like to down their drinks asap, ryan wanted to join in but they said no because he was sick when he did it the last time..


Fact two
Ryan left slightly put out and went back to the bedroom where he told latyesha that "they" were not allowed....the first lie as they said "he" wasn't.


Fact three
All that seemed forgotten about because sam went into the bedroom to ask if there was a problem, he got three answers from hughie ryan and latyesha all saying no, there was no problem.


Fact four
Sam then went out into the garden and spun a fairy tale about how there was a problem to Alex, the second lie.


Fact five
Alex went back to the bedroom to confront ryan but asked a sweeping statement to the room if there was a problem.


Fact six
A bit of shouting happened which included alex telling hughie to shut up and mind his own business. Hughie did just that and let sam, teesh alex and ryan have a back and forth argument that was just insults really..it all seemed to have blown over when hughie decided it was now his turn to have his say and his argument was with alex and his hypocrisy of telling hughie to mind his own business when he himself had done the same thing in a previous argument...hughie was in control if a bit loud and shouty but was only putting his side of things to alex when bb called him.



Fact seven
Bb only calling him was what triggered his initial rage,then the direct provocation from alex calling him a boy or kid as he smirked and waved at hughie infuriated him more.



Fact eight.
There was no reason for bb to get involved initially and they caused this.

I agree with everything you say except for part four. I didn't think Sam was spinning a fairy story. He knew they had all been bitching about him and Alex and he knew they were lying when they said they hadn't. It's what they do and Sam should know cause he's usually one of them doing it with em.
He was upset because it made him feel targeted behind his back and it totally serves him right after he did the same thing to Andy and Hughie in the past.