[Crimson Dynamo]

I actually think that vegetarians will one day be looked on very kindly by historians and that we will one day all be this way, as it goes.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Yes people who are against products/stuff made by animals need a life They are vegetarians of course they won't be happy with using stuff that's has some animal in it, Fur isn't made to be eaten but that still gets protest about. Vegetarians isn't all about not eating meat

Yeah, the whole 'they don't need to eat the notes' thing doesn't really make any sense tbh. Vegetarians/vegans are against the killing of animals for products, it just happens that those products are normally food. It's not a case that they're just against eating meat and that's it.
It's not something that bothers me personally but I don't think people should be mocked for having an issue with it, it's something a lot of people feel really strongly about so I don't think it's a case that they're complaining for the sake of it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

the amount of animal product in every £5 produced so far = half a cow


every car, bus, plane and train contains traces of animal product too

[user104658]

In theory, you could make tallow from wild animals that died of natural causes...

Would vegans still be against that? Genuine question.

[Babayaro.]

Originally Posted by arista

Sure LukeB

But Vegans can have 2 x£2 coins
and 1 x £1 coin

I do not mind that

[Jamie89]

"Vegetarian cafe refuses new 'animal fat' £5 note"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-38184599

I think this is really bad of the cafe. Admittedly it's hard for me to fully empathise since I'm not a vegan/vegetarian but their argument is with the banks, not the general public. So it's not fair of them to do something that might disadvantage their customers.

If they want to make a stand then by all mean do it but they should be going directly to the source, hold a protest or something. As it is this just comes over as a lazy protest to me, punishing the small man because it's easier and hoping the big man will notice. I respect their views but as far as the action they've chosen goes it's not the right way to go about it.

Our whole business is based around not having anything like that on the premises," Mrs Meijland said.
She's got it mixed up imo, it's about the products that they sell to customers being vegetarian, which isn't affected by the currency being used, as she said herself...
"Although the same person doesn't handle the money that handles the food, that's not really the point."

Fair enough none of the customers have complained but in principle I just think it's wrong of them and if it was to catch on and be adopted by other businesses it could become a problem.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Sleighmie

"Vegetarian cafe refuses new 'animal fat' £5 note"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-38184599

I think this is really bad of the cafe. Admittedly it's hard for me to fully empathise since I'm not a vegan/vegetarian but their argument is with the banks, not the general public. So it's not fair of them to do something that might disadvantage their customers.

If they want to make a stand then by all mean do it but they should be going directly to the source, hold a protest or something. As it is this just comes over as a lazy protest to me, punishing the small man because it's easier and hoping the big man will notice. I respect their views but as far as the action they've chosen goes it's not the right way to go about it.

Our whole business is based around not having anything like that on the premises," Mrs Meijland said.
She's got it mixed up imo, it's about the products that they sell to customers being vegetarian, which isn't affected by the currency being used, as she said herself...
"Although the same person doesn't handle the money that handles the food, that's not really the point."

Fair enough none of the customers have complained but in principle I just think it's wrong of them and if it was to catch on and be adopted by other businesses it could become a problem.

Honestly I'm sure vegetarians come into contact with animal by products every day of the week and if they made an issue about it they would have to live in a bubble, so if they brush up against someone wearing a leather jacket in the street they would have an issue with this? I hope the Cafe goes out of business, this is a stupid decision

[y.winter]

Looks like ignorance about animal cruelty has made it to TiBB.

You know, you can be a meat eater and yet have a bit of sense to not come with the "but we don't eat money". Yes, I don't eat money. But using them is directly encouraging the bank of England to produce a product (in these case - notes) that involves unnecessary exploitation of animals. And that's what vegetarians/vegans are mostly against, it's deeper than this basic thought of "if it's not edible it's ok". The same way as I don't buy leather/fur clothes. Raise your hand if you ever thought that animal fat/whatever is an ingredient to make money.
I don't fly to Africa to feed the poor kids, but I have a great respect for those who do. You can eat meat, but have the decency of respecting the ones who care of something that is clearly a good deed.

[T*]

I'm stunned as to the fact it's 2016 and we used tallow in our notes like that's the most surprising part of this? It seems really old fashioned :/

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by y.winter.has.come

Looks like ignorance about animal cruelty has made it to TiBB.

You know, you can be a meat eater and yet have a bit of sense to not come with the "but we don't eat money". Yes, I don't eat money. But using them is directly encouraging the bank of England to produce a product (in these case - notes) that involves unnecessary exploitation of animals. And that's what vegetarians/vegans are mostly against, it's deeper than this basic thought of "if it's not edible it's ok". The same way as I don't buy leather/fur clothes. Raise your hand if you ever thought that animal fat/whatever is an ingredient to make money.
I don't fly to Africa to feed the poor kids, but I have a great respect for those who do. You can eat meat, but have the decency of respecting the ones who care of something that is clearly a good deed.

do you know how much is used in every banknote produced and in circulation so far?


half a cow

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by y.winter.has.come

Looks like ignorance about animal cruelty has made it to TiBB.

You know, you can be a meat eater and yet have a bit of sense to not come with the "but we don't eat money". Yes, I don't eat money. But using them is directly encouraging the bank of England to produce a product (in these case - notes) that involves unnecessary exploitation of animals. And that's what vegetarians/vegans are mostly against, it's deeper than this basic thought of "if it's not edible it's ok". The same way as I don't buy leather/fur clothes. Raise your hand if you ever thought that animal fat/whatever is an ingredient to make money.
I don't fly to Africa to feed the poor kids, but I have a great respect for those who do. You can eat meat, but have the decency of respecting the ones who care of something that is clearly a good deed.

Bang on.

[Tom4784]

It's not like they're going to eat the notes is it? What a waste of energy it is to get upset over this.

Plus isn't Tallow basically a byproduct anyway? Animals will be killed for their meat regardless so it's better to make use of anything else we can from the animal.

[y.winter]

Originally Posted by Make Christmas Great Again

do you know how much is used in every banknote produced and in circulation so far?


half a cow

I bet the other living half of that cow is very happy to know.

[Crimson Dynamo]

wait it gets better





New £5 notes are banned from Hindu temples


British Hindu leaders ban the new £5 note from temples after it was revealed that they are non-vegetarian. (they have just banned it, the article is a little old, just heard on R2)

http://metro.co.uk/2016/11/30/new-5-...mples-6293343/

If ever you needed to know how backward, superstitious and totally batty religion is...


You could not make this sh1t up

[RichardG]

lmao

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's not like they're going to eat the notes is it? What a waste of energy it is to get upset over this.

Plus isn't Tallow basically a byproduct anyway? Animals will be killed for their meat regardless so it's better to make use of anything else we can from the animal.

They are upset because the new £5 has bits of animal, being a vegetarian/vegan isn't all about not eating meat, they are against animal products. Fur,food and in this case new £5 notes are animal products and entertainment. It's pretty reasonable why they are annoyed.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by LukeBrrr.

They are upset because the new £5 has bits of animal, being a vegetarian/vegan isn't all about not eating meat, they are against animal products. Fur,food and in this case new £5 notes are animal products and entertainment. It's pretty reasonable why they are annoyed.

so do all cars planes and trains

[y.winter]

Originally Posted by Make Christmas Great Again

so do all cars planes and trains

So it's basically all or nothing at all.
Quite a sad perspective.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by y.winter.has.come

So it's basically all or nothing at all.
Quite a sad perspective.

what is sad is picking the wrong battles and losing any credibility they had with the public

[y.winter]

Originally Posted by Make Christmas Great Again

what is sad is picking the wrong battles and losing any credibility they had with the public

There are no wrong battles when it comes to injustice (as stupid as they are, thanks to the bank of Britain).
I'm sorry if it's not appealing enough for you. As far as I'm concerned a vegan can walk down the street sipping a soy latte and people will still be annoyed by "ooh look at that bleeding heart vegan walking down the street bragging about his non-meat diet". Unless it's about cruelty against street dogs/cats, people will always have something to say about how vegans are sabotaging their own reputation. We're damned if we do and damned if we don't.

[Northern Monkey]

Personally i have nothing against the non militant vegans and veggies.They can drink as many soy lattes as they like.It shouldn't bother anyone else tbh.It's the ones who try pushing it on the rest of us that are the problem.But they are a minority anyway and mostly confined to the bowels of Youtube.
As for the fivers.Well they're just gonna have more change clogging up their wallets.That's not anyone elses problem.

Unless of course a shop runs out of change.Then they're screwed

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LukeBrrr.

They are upset because the new £5 has bits of animal, being a vegetarian/vegan isn't all about not eating meat, they are against animal products. Fur,food and in this case new £5 notes are animal products and entertainment. It's pretty reasonable why they are annoyed.

It's silly, most every day objects contain some sort of animal material. It's pretty unrealistic to boycott anything that contain any animal based materials.

Choosing not to eat meat is fine but there's no way a total boycott is realistic without making allowances somewhere. It's hypocritical and thus pointless.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Personally i have nothing against the non militant vegans and veggies.They can drink as many soy lattes as they like.It shouldn't bother anyone else tbh.It's the ones who try pushing it on the rest of us that are the problem.But they are a minority anyway and mostly confined to the bowels of Youtube.
As for the fivers.Well they're just gonna have more change clogging up their wallets.That's not anyone elses problem.

Unless of course a shop runs out of change.Then they're screwed

I wonder how many would say keep the change in that instance

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's silly, most every day objects contain some sort of animal material. It's pretty unrealistic to boycott anything that contain any animal based materials.

Choosing not to eat meat is fine but there's no way a total boycott is realistic without making allowances somewhere. It's hypocritical and thus pointless.

.

[y.winter]

Also: there will always be hungry people around the world. Why even bother feeding five of them. It's pointless.

As they say at Tesco: every little helps.