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y.winter · 08-02-2017, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie89

I get what Winter's saying, she has changed artistically tbf. But I think she's always been credible as a musician and I don't think her current era is her trying to chase that. I actually think it's kind of the opposite, that when she started she was chasing 'fame' and did a lot of the things she did to get noticed, whereas now she's more able to just do what she wants. Because all those things she used to do, they were just layers on top of her artistic-ness (if that's a word). I think she's always had more to offer than the average pop star and that's clear even from The Fame Monster, but I just think it's a case of her getting older and adapting her music to how she feels now, which any musician probably does.

I accept it. I just found her first two singles from the last albums not interesting/amusing as they should be. She's a good singer, but it wasn't something to release as a single, especially not first. This John Wayne sounds and looks more like her, but still not as strong as some of her previous singles.

Jamie89 · 08-02-2017, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake.

of course she has

musicians have to develop if not for fans, then for themselves

interest in her has dwindled, but I'd say that's more to do with how the music scene has changed in the past 8-10 years than anything else

Yeah, that and just that she was so big it would be impossible to maintain that level of interest permanently. And I think part of the attraction was just because she was new and different so obviously after a while that would die down a bit.

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Originally Posted by y.winter

I accept it. I just found her first two singles from the last albums not interesting/amusing as they should be. She's a good singer, but it wasn't something to release as a single, especially not first. This John Wayne sounds and looks more like her, but still not as strong as some of her previous singles.

It's funny, I loved her when she released her first album but then I wasn't too interested in the songs she released afterwards and haven't really been a fan for years or followed her very closely, but it was Perfect Illusion that got me interested in her again

TomC · 08-02-2017, 09:09 PM

^ Yep, PI was the song that made me a hardcore fan (but I accept I'm one in a million).

I just love the unpredictability of this video, even if I did kinda want this era to be coherent. Video-wise, I feel Joanne has just gone from her most to least coherent album in terms of videos.

Jake. · 08-02-2017, 09:25 PM

went to watch the video and its been taken down or s/t

Marsh. · 08-02-2017, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by y.winter

it makes sense. there's no point in dismissing other opinions with "doesn't make any sense" in multiple variations, Marsh.
As someone who doesn't actively listen to Lady Gaga songs, as well as many other people, the exposure/interest she gets has been in decline - and it says a lot.
Bring as many numbers of sales as you want, of course she'll sale millions because she's still lady gaga, but it still doesn't make up for the lack of interest she creates these days. No one talks about lady gaga these days as much as they did when she exploded on the radio and the internet with every music video and single she released.

I haven't said you don't make sense because it's a "different opinion" I've said it makes little sense because that's what I think about what you're saying.

Of course she isn't making as much of a rumble as she did at the beginning, just as the world is no longer shocked by Madonna's antics as they were in the 80s. The world gets used to things and moves on. That's how it works. Nobody can stay at the top with that much exposure, it's impossible.

I wasn't mentioning sales or numbers, I was commenting on your comments about her music or her style changing when if you actually look at all of her career from 2008 to present her experimentation with songs and genres has not changed and yet somehow "Perfect Illusion" is her trying to do rock and be "credible" and somehow the first time you've noticed this, it's not the first pop song to have influences from other genres (Gaga or not) and it won't be the last.

She's been seen as a credible artist for ages whether she's done a shallow pop number or a slow ballad.