[the truth]

These are often supplied on the nhs

is this right? is it wrong or ok as it helps her career
or is it all the daily mails fault

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...gar-daddy.html

[arista]

No its not the DM fault

And that funding must Stop.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by the truth

These are often supplied on the nhs

is this right? is it wrong or ok as it helps her career
or is it all the daily mails fault

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...gar-daddy.html

I don't think they are anymore. The only people who should get them under the NHS are those who have had breast cancer and require reconstructive surgery.

Stupid girls looking for more male attention who claim insecurity and mental health affects due to poor self-image, based on the size of their boobs, should not.

Grow a pair and understand what qualities really make them attractive - it has nothing to do with the size of their boobs.

[Vicky.]

They should only be funded if its for reconstructive surgery after mastectomies and such IMO. Its ridiculous that people could get them for other reasons.

My mother didn't want a reconstitution after her masectomy...she wanted the other breast off (as there was a huge chance it could come back in the other one, so preventative measure aswell as aesthetic) and they wouldn't do it. It was reconstruction or nothing. So she had to go private.

[jaxie]

I don't think any cosmetic surgery is appropriate on the NHS unless it is to reconstruct after accident or illness. It isn't there to mess around with the size of your bosoms.

[smudgie]

Medical reasons only.
Women with oversized breasts that suffer with back pain struggle to get help.

[DemolitionRed]

What I don't understand is, my sister and her husband have recently been informed by the NHS that getting breast implants for cosmetic reasons (for their daughter) may well be rejected and that my niece may have a battle ahead of her.

My niece has just reached an age where she is body conscious but because she lost her pituitary gland through a brain tumour, she hasn't produced the natural hormones to make her grow or her body develop like a woman. Synthetic hormones have made her grow and made her feel like a young woman but she's still totally flat chested and has boyish hips. Now that she feels like a woman, something she wouldn't feel without these synthetic hormones, she's become very self conscious. She has been told that once she's considered 'fully developed' they may consider breast implants on the NHS but she would have to go through at least a year of therapy about her mental state prior to surgery ever being considered.

Her parents have now told her that they will pay for her to go privately when the time is right, because they don't want make her beg the NHS for something that surely she should be offered on the NHS?

There are definitely exceptions for this procedure to be carried out by the NHS, but it seems that depending on which part of the country you live in, you will be treated differently.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Medical reasons only.
Women with oversized breasts that suffer with back pain struggle to get help.

Yes that's true and by the time they are accepted for a reduction, damage to the spine is already a problem.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Medical reasons only.
Women with oversized breasts that suffer with back pain struggle to get help.

Yes, for some reason funding is fine to make them bigger. But make them smaller...no chance.

Hmm

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

What I don't understand is, my sister and her husband have recently been informed by the NHS that getting breast implants for cosmetic reasons (for their daughter) may well be rejected and that my niece may have a battle ahead of her.

My niece has just reached an age where she is body conscious but because she lost her pituitary gland through a brain tumour, she hasn't produced the natural hormones to make her grow or her body develop like a woman. Synthetic hormones have made her grow and made her feel like a young woman but she's still totally flat chested and has boyish hips. Now that she feels like a woman, something she wouldn't feel without these synthetic hormones, she's become very self conscious. She has been told that once she's considered 'fully developed' they may consider breast implants on the NHS but she would have to go through at least a year of therapy about her mental state prior to surgery ever being considered.

Her parents have now told her that they will pay for her to go privately when the time is right, because they don't want make her beg the NHS for something that surely she should be offered to to her on the NHS?

There are definitely exceptions for this procedure to be carried out by the NHS, but it seems that depending on which part of the country you live in, you will be treated differently.

I would say her case is medical, hardly cosmetic.

[Alf]

A message to Women

Us guys like a real set of boobs, and think that fake, plastic ones look ugly.

Don't do it to yourselves, you look good the way you are, natural.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

What I don't understand is, my sister and her husband have recently been informed by the NHS that getting breast implants for cosmetic reasons (for their daughter) may well be rejected and that my niece may have a battle ahead of her.

My niece has just reached an age where she is body conscious but because she lost her pituitary gland through a brain tumour, she hasn't produced the natural hormones to make her grow or her body develop like a woman. Synthetic hormones have made her grow and made her feel like a young woman but she's still totally flat chested and has boyish hips. Now that she feels like a woman, something she wouldn't feel without these synthetic hormones, she's become very self conscious. She has been told that once she's considered 'fully developed' they may consider breast implants on the NHS but she would have to go through at least a year of therapy about her mental state prior to surgery ever being considered.

Her parents have now told her that they will pay for her to go privately when the time is right, because they don't want make her beg the NHS for something that surely she should be offered to to her on the NHS?

There are definitely exceptions for this procedure to be carried out by the NHS, but it seems that depending on which part of the country you live in, you will be treated differently.

I do feel it is more important to encourage our young women to value themselves as women regardless of shape. Many women are naturally flat-chested but it shouldn't affected how they view themselves as women. Over-sized, top-heavy boobs are ugly.

Anyone who judges a woman's attractiveness purely on the size of her mammary glands is surely not worth worrying about. There is far more to a woman than that. Personally I do not view this as disfigurement like losing a breast through illness and don't feel it should qualify for NHS treatment.

[Northern Monkey]

The more boobs the better imo.If some women are lacking and want to improve their chesticles then i don't mind contributing.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I do feel it is more important to encourage our young women to value themselves as women regardless of shape. Many women are naturally flat-chested but it shouldn't affected how they view themselves as women. Over-sized, top-heavy boobs are ugly.

Anyone who judges a woman's attractiveness purely on the size of her mammary glands is surely not worth worrying about. There is far more to a woman than that. Personally I do not view this as disfigurement like losing a breast through illness and don't feel it should qualify for NHS treatment.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

TBF natural large boobs wouldn't be top heavy. I think what brillo was getting at was the oversized football right under your neck type fake ones.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Because they look unnatural and unbalanced. They also indicate a lack of confidence in themselves as well as superficial values which can be unattractive.

They can also pose health problems in the future.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Because they look unnatural and unbalanced. They also indicate a lack of confidence in themselves as well as superficial values which can be unattractive.

They can also pose health problems in the future.

You're judging though... can you not see how it makes your post a tad hypocritical?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

You're judging though... can you not see how it makes your post a tad hypocritical?

I simply believe that being flat-chested is not unattractive. I have seen many stunningly attractive, feminine flat-chested women and many less attractive large breasted women.

My point being it is not the size of their breasts that determine their femininity or attractiveness. They are not disfigured and should not get what would amount to cosmetic surgery on a cash-strapped NHS.

Do you not believe women should be valued for who they are - not on the size of one part of their body?

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I do feel it is more important to encourage our young women to value themselves as women regardless of shape. Many women are naturally flat-chested but it shouldn't affected how they view themselves as women. Over-sized, top-heavy boobs are ugly.

Anyone who judges a woman's attractiveness purely on the size of her mammary glands is surely not worth worrying about. There is far more to a woman than that. Personally I do not view this as disfigurement like losing a breast through illness and don't feel it should qualify for NHS treatment.

Oh I agree. My husband gets so frustrated with how women are brainwashed into believing beauty and femininity is only skin deep. The problem is, we are brought up with this, it may as well be implanted into our DNA.

I do though, believe that a girl who has grown up with so much illness should have that choice. She told her mum recently that she wished they'd never given her female hormone treatment as its ruined her life. Its not like she's looking for a cleavage; she'd be happy with a 32a.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Oh I agree. My husband gets so frustrated with how women are brainwashed into believing beauty and femininity is only skin deep. The problem is, we are brought up with this, it may as well be implanted into our DNA.

I do though, believe that a girl who has grown up with so much illness should have that choice. She told her mum recently that she wished they'd never given her female hormone treatment as its ruined her life. Its not like she's looking for a cleavage; she'd be happy with a 32a.

Sorry I don't mean to undermine your neice's situation in any way but I imagine she is probably lovely as she is. She is still young and vulnerable and probably feeling unattractive because of all she has been through but I am not convinced breast surgery would be the answer. If she still feels the same way in a few years maybe the situation could be Reviewed.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I simply believe that being flat-chested is not unattractive. I have seen many stunningly attractive, feminine flat-chested women and many less attractive large breasted women.

My point being it is not the size of their breasts that determine their femininity or attractiveness. They are not disfigured and should not get what would amount to cosmetic surgery on a cash-strapped NHS.

Do you not believe women should be valued for who they are - not on the size of one part of their body?

Of course I do, that said I'm a bit lost with your face/ body attractiveness scale.

Would it be more acceptable to request facial surgery if you didn't consider yourself attractive?

Personally I wouldn't expect the NHS to put people forward for invasive surgery on a whim.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Of course I do, that said I'm a bit lost with your face/ body attractiveness scale.

Would it be more acceptable to request facial surgery if you didn't consider yourself attractive?

Personally I wouldn't expect the NHS to put people forward for invasive surgery on a whim.

Neither would I. Breast surgery in particular is a booming industry and preys on young womens' natural insecurity. When did I say anything about facial attractiveness, there are many things that effect attractiveness in women and men. Boob size has little to do with it - perhaps only in the minds of superficial men and insecure young women.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I don't think they are anymore. The only people who should get them under the NHS are those who have had breast cancer and require reconstructive surgery.

Stupid girls looking for more male attention who claim insecurity and mental health affects due to poor self-image, based on the size of their boobs, should not.

Grow a pair and understand what qualities really make them attractive - it has nothing to do with the size of their boobs.

100% agree .

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Neither would I. Breast surgery in particular is a booming industry and preys on young womens' natural insecurity. When did I say anything about facial attractiveness, there are many things that effect attractiveness in women and men. Boob size has little to do with it - perhaps only in the minds of superficial men and insecure young women.

'I have seen many stunningly attractive, feminine flat-chested women and many less attractive large breasted women.'

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

'I have seen many stunningly attractive, feminine flat-chested women and many less attractive large breasted women.'

Yes, but the point I was making was that there were other things that contributed to their attractiveness - not boob size.