[Brillopad]

The Left wing president of Austria has said ominously "and it is not only Muslim women, all women can wear a headscarf, and if this real and rampant Islamaphobia continues, there will come a day where we must ask all women to wear a headscarf - all - out of solidarity to those who do it for religous reasons".

Isn't this left wing PC propaganda exactly why so many have concerns about both Islam and PC. This left wing Western idiot is suggesting that all women should in time be 'forced' in one way or another to wear a headscarf to appease Muslims.

As a woman I for one will NEVER 'comply' with such garbage. Thoughts please!

[Beso]

I think you have taken this poor mans words, jumbled them up a bit then wiped your nose across your keyboard and come up with an unbiased opinion cause that man is not saying any of that at all.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I think you have taken this poor mans words, jumbled them up a bit then wiped your nose across your keyboard and come up with an unbiased opinion cause that man is not saying any of that at all.

I simply copied his words (note the quotation marks). He said it. No poor man about it.

Just look it up yourself.

[VanessaFeltz.]

Sometimes Muslim people are getting more respect than they deserve.

Just saying. I am against discrimination but majority of muslim people need a reality check that they are not the only group in this world and they need to respect others to earn respect back.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by VanessaFeltz.

Sometimes Muslim people are getting more respect than they deserve.

Just saying. I am against discrimination but majority of muslim people need a reality check that they are not the only group in this world and they need to respect others to earn respect back.

Wise words Vanessa.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

The Left wing president of Austria has said ominously "and it is not only Muslim women, all women can wear a headscarf, and if this real and rampant Islamaphobia continues, there will come a day where we must ask all women to wear a headscarf - all - out of solidarity to those who do it for religous reasons".

Isn't this left wing PC propaganda exactly why so many have concerns about both Islam and PC. This left wing Western idiot is suggesting that all women should in time be 'forced' in one way or another to wear a headscarf to appease Muslims.

As a woman I for one will NEVER 'comply' with such garbage. Thoughts please!

If you are going to quote some words from an article, then at least post the entire link because its impossible to debate without the full story.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7707166.html

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by VanessaFeltz.

Sometimes Muslim people are getting more respect than they deserve.

Just saying. I am against discrimination but majority of muslim people need a reality check that they are not the only group in this world and they need to respect others to earn respect back.

Wow!

I'll tell my Muslim work colleagues they need to step up their game and go and get themselves a reality check.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

If you are going to quote some words from an article, then at least post the entire link because its impossible to debate without the full story.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7707166.html

I am using a tablet and don't know to do it, I would have done otherwise.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

The Left wing president of Austria has said ominously "and it is not only Muslim women, all women can wear a headscarf, and if this real and rampant Islamaphobia continues, there will come a day where we must ask all women to wear a headscarf - all - out of solidarity to those who do it for religous reasons".

Isn't this left wing PC propaganda exactly why so many have concerns about both Islam and PC. This left wing Western idiot is suggesting that all women should in time be 'forced' in one way or another to wear a headscarf to appease Muslims.

As a woman I for one will NEVER 'comply' with such garbage. Thoughts please!

They can kiss my little ass too,sick of cowtowing to what others want,about time we thought about what we want, and it's not women wearing headscarves,bloody idiot whoever he is.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

They can kiss my little ass too,sick of cowtowing to what others want,about time we thought about what we want, and it's not women wearing headscarves,bloody idiot whoever he is.

My thoughts exactly Kazanne - what next I wonder!

[DemolitionRed]

I agree that women in the West shouldn't wear the niqab but why would we stop them wearing a headscarf? Is it because its an expression their religious belief, because if so, we should also stop Hindus wearing the sari, the Sikh wearing the turban, the Jews wearing the kippah and the nuns and orthodox Christians wearing the habit.

Its a headscarf ffs.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

My thoughts exactly Kazanne - what next I wonder!

We'll be told to stay at home and do the dishes next because we all know how superior some think they are.

[user104658]

"if this real and rampant Islamaphobia continues, there will come a day where we must ask all women to wear a headscarf – all – out of solidarity to those who do it for religious reasons."

Ask. ASK. Not force. He is talking about ASKING women to VOLUNTARILY wear a headscarf out of solidarity with women who do so for religious reasons, if there comes a day when they are to be "banned". He is not talking about forcing anyone to do anything. Because he also specifically says;

"It is every woman’s right to always dress how she wants, that is my opinion on the matter,” he told an audience of school pupils."


A valiant effort to twist something into fearful propaganda though Brillo. Shame that DR ruined it for you by actually linking to the source material you cherry picked out of context comments from.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

I agree that women in the West shouldn't wear the niqab but why would we stop them wearing a headscarf? Is it because its an expression their religious belief, because if so, we should also stop Hindus wearing the sari, the Sikh wearing the turban, the Jews wearing the kippah and the nuns and orthodox Christians wearing the habit.

Its a headscarf ffs.

Well in todays climate it's good to see people faces,so the full face thing should be a thing of the past,nothing to do with religion,more to do with safety I would think,if they want to wear a headscarf fair enough but it shouldn't be forced on anyone to do so.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

I agree that women in the West shouldn't wear the niqab but why would we stop them wearing a headscarf? Is it because its an expression their religious belief, because if so, we should also stop Hindus wearing the sari, the Sikh wearing the turban, the Jews wearing the kippah and the nuns and orthodox Christians wearing the habit.

Its a headscarf ffs.

Personally I don't have a problem with the headscarf but for a Western politician to even suggest all women should wear one to support a given religion is worrying and completly unacceptable.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

We'll be told to stay at home and do the dishes next because we all know how superior some think they are.

Youtube video

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

"if this real and rampant Islamaphobia continues, there will come a day where we must ask all women to wear a headscarf – all – out of solidarity to those who do it for religious reasons."

Ask. ASK. Not force. He is talking about ASKING women to VOLUNTARILY wear a headscarf out of solidarity with women who do so for religious reasons, if there comes a day when they are to be "banned". He is not talking about forcing anyone to do anything. Because he also specifically says;

"It is every woman’s right to always dress how she wants, that is my opinion on the matter,” he told an audience of school pupils."


A valiant effort to twist something into fearful propaganda though Brillo. Shame that DR ruined it for you by actually linking to the source material you cherry picked out of context comments from.

Calm down and drink tea,Why should he even be asking us? or suggesting it,people moan about religion yet want us to all do it 'their religion'
maybe we should all don a crown of thorns in solidarity for the Christian religion,it's every womans right to dress how she wants,so why does he need to even ask such a question?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Personally I don't have a problem with the headscarf but for a Western politician to even suggest all women should wear one to support a given religion is worrying and completly unacceptable.

Correct.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

My thoughts exactly Kazanne - what next I wonder!

I stopped yesterday because I heard this old woman having a right old rant at a big issue seller. She was a Rumanian Orthodox Christian so her head was covered and she wore a long skirt. The intolerant old woman clearly thought she was a Muslim and believed she had some divine right to relieve her bitter and pent up hatred on her. That is the second time in as many weeks that I've seen this happen.

This is what we are going to see more and more of. This is what's next.... pent up anger and hatred spat out at Muslims or people mistaken for Muslims. People feeling brave enough to show that hatred and intolerance because they know they've now got more support than they've ever had.

What comes after 'next'? a badge?

[Cherie]

In fairness he also said this

“He also warned against ‘racism from the other side’, giving the example of a Muslim taxi driver refusing to take Orthodox Jews,” a statement said, adding: “This is absolutely unacceptable.”

I don't really get his point about wearing headscarves in solidarity, given a lot of Muslim women wear the scarves to please their husbands rather than for religious reasons. I work with a number of Muslim ladies the older ladies observe Ramadan and don't wear headscarves, the younger ones wear headscarves but only did so when they got married, I don't think either group would want me to wear a headscarf in solidarity with them

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

"if this real and rampant Islamaphobia continues, there will come a day where we must ask all women to wear a headscarf – all – out of solidarity to those who do it for religious reasons."

Ask. ASK. Not force. He is talking about ASKING women to VOLUNTARILY wear a headscarf out of solidarity with women who do so for religious reasons, if there comes a day when they are to be "banned". He is not talking about forcing anyone to do anything. Because he also specifically says;

"It is every woman’s right to always dress how she wants, that is my opinion on the matter,” he told an audience of school pupils."


A valiant effort to twist something into fearful propaganda though Brillo. Shame that DR ruined it for you by actually linking to the source material you cherry picked out of context comments from.

Such a 'suggestion' is pretty OTT - so how long before some attempt to make it more than that. That is the point. Are women's rights going to be superseeded by religious doctrine?

I can assure you I wanted to post the link but couldn't, so DR did me a favour - I could hardly type the whole thing could I. But I did quote his own words. So a valiant effort to imply I was being 'selective' with my post.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Such a 'suggestion' is pretty OTT - so how long before some attempt to make it more than that. That is the point. Are women's rights going to be superseeded by religious doctrine?

I can assure you I wanted to post the link but couldn't, so DR did me a favour - I could hardly type the whole thing could I. But I did quote his own words. So a valiant effort to imply I was being 'selective' with my post.

You were being selective because he also quite clearly stated that he believes it is everyone's right to wear whatever they want - which you conveniently chose to ignore to fit your own, paranoid, version of the story.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Calm down and drink tea,Why should he even be asking us? or suggesting it,people moan about religion yet want us to all do it 'their religion'
maybe we should all don a crown of thorns in solidarity for the Christian religion,it's every womans right to dress how she wants,so why does he need to even ask such a question?

Absolutely

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Calm down and drink tea,Why should he even be asking us? or suggesting it,people moan about religion yet want us to all do it 'their religion'
maybe we should all don a crown of thorns in solidarity for the Christian religion,it's every womans right to dress how she wants,so why does he need to even ask such a question?

He's saying that IF there is a drive to BAN the headscarf for Muslim women, all others who believe as he does that people should be able to wear whatever they want, should IN SOLIDARITY, IF THEY WANT TO, defy the ban and wear a headscarf as a protest.

Jesus Christ did this forum make it past primary school critical reading level?

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Personally I don't have a problem with the headscarf but for a Western politician to even suggest all women should wear one to support a given religion is worrying and completly unacceptable.

On the 2nd of January this year was a day of global solidarity for the Muslim headscarf. The message was, "I have the freedom to wear what I want"