[Denver]

Originally Posted by Tregard

Well if this is your mentality then you're never going to agree with the nut and bolts of this argument, are you? Labour could be willing the money into existence at no damage to the economy, and it would still be "money better spent elsewhere" if you believe higher education is a privilege.

You get 10 free years why should you get another 10?


For you to do all that hard work for Labour to triple the UK's debt and triple immigration so you have no chance of getting a job and you wasted years away on a fake promise

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Higher education is a privilege not a guarantee

It still would be it would be even more competitive than ever before

[Denver]

Also i thought you didnt have to pay it back till you earn a certain amount each year

[Tregard]

Originally Posted by the truth

not its FACT

Well that's me convinced.

If you want to actually talk out the issues of the politics, that may be an interesting discussion. Labour aren't perfect by a longshot, but these are aspirational goals for our society to a large percentage of the population. You can disagree with the means of getting there, but shouting into your echo chamber about "Santa Corbyn" just makes you look foolish.

[Tregard]

Originally Posted by Adam.

You get 10 free years why should you get another 10?


For you to do all that hard work for Labour to triple the UK's debt and triple immigration so you have no chance of getting a job and you wasted years away on a fake promise

National students will have even worse job prospects if they're not as well equipped academically as their international peers. "Getting another 10 years" is par for the course in much of the western world, and that leaves you with the two options of catching up with them and improving your own population's skill, or shutting out the rest of the world completely.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Adam.

So who is going to pay for tutors wages? Books? Upgrades to the uni? Stuff like that

Its self generating. If all we have to pay back to the central bank is taxes, we generate tax by employing people, by getting workers to upgrade things and by selling books. Surely you understand how that works? its simple maths.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Makes me smile how the promises by Labour are believed without question and followed blindly ,they have never lied to the public have they?

Your kidding. The last thing I want is a future where my kids and future grandchildren will struggle. I have read, researched and taken on board this two sided debate with such thoroughness, its left me with only one conclusion, Labours fiscal plans can and will work. Tory fiscal plans will stagnate our economy more and more and they are the last thing we need with Brexit coming up.

Unless you are earning in access of Ł150K a year, why on earth would you vote the Tories in?

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Your kidding. The last thing I want is a future where my kids and future grandchildren will struggle. I have read, researched and taken on board this two sided debate with such thoroughness, its left me with only one conclusion, Labours fiscal plans can and will work. Tory fiscal plans will stagnate our economy more and more and they are the last thing we need with Brexit coming up.

Unless you are earning in access of Ł150K a year, why on earth would you vote the Tories in?

Lots of people have different views and make their choice on those views.
People from all sides read up on it, taking in truths and lies, but when it comes to the crunch we all make our own minds up on what we believe to be right.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Your kidding. The last thing I want is a future where my kids and future grandchildren will struggle. I have read, researched and taken on board this two sided debate with such thoroughness, its left me with only one conclusion, Labours fiscal plans can and will work. Tory fiscal plans will stagnate our economy more and more and they are the last thing we need with Brexit coming up.

Unless you are earning in access of Ł150K a year, why on earth would you vote the Tories in?

Unless you want a future where the UK is in severe debt which Labour have promised to keep increasing and the country to be over crowed why would you vote labour

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Unless you want a future where the UK is in severe debt which Labour have promised to keep increasing and the country to be over crowed why would you vote labour

Ok can you explain that to me better so that I may understand because I obviously don't want to vote for a party that are going to do this.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Ok can you explain that to me better so that I may understand because I obviously don't want to vote for a party that are going to do this.

Labour have said they will continue to borrow billions each year which will create a hell of a lot more debt to the UK and they want to keep open borders open to allow everyone to come to the UK and claim free money they are not entitled to

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Blame the Cons for that if it's in the last 6 years, they and the Lib Dems are the ones that trebled then,not Labour.
Tuition fees were a great deal lower in 2010.

I finished Uni in 2013 but now for all present and new Students,I'd love to see them scrapped at long last.
It is what I really voted for with my first vote in 2010.

Only to find one party the Cons, wanting to at least double them,the Lib Dems going to abolish them,then both those Parties, astoundingly voting to 'treble' them.

No I blame Labour fully for the betrayal of tuition fees in the first place and the double betrayal of removing them now and ****ing over all those kids who will have to pay for years. If it's so easy to remove them affordably what a betrayal of all those who paid in the interim. That isn't the same as saying anyone should suffer now because others have paid so stop with the silly accusations those making them, not you Joey.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Labour have said they will continue to borrow billions each year which will create a hell of a lot more debt to the UK and they want to keep open borders open to allow everyone to come to the UK and claim free money they are not entitled to

source please?

[Alf]

He's pledged a Ł1bn culture fund today.

http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/jerem...ail/story.html

[Denver]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

source please?

https://order-order.com/2017/04/24/l...w-500-billion/


they plan to borrow Ł500 billion

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Withano

They signed up to Uni under a Tory government, that doesn't seem like a reason to punish future students...

Do I type something and then you imagine what I've said and give me motives?

[Withano]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Do I type something and then you imagine what I've said and give me motives?

Oh good, you're voting labour

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Withano

Oh good, you're voting labour

Monster raving loonies probably. That's all I'm left with these days since I don't vote for thieves and liars.

Go on show me an expose on the leader of the loonies that says he's a thief, a liar and a murderer.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Monster raving loonies probably. That's all I'm left with these days since I don't vote for thieves and liars.

Go on show me an expose on the leader of the loonies that says he's a their a liar and a murderer.

I don't know much about them tbh. I like their choice of hats. Are they cutting education fees too?

[Denver]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Monster raving loonies probably. That's all I'm left with these days since I don't vote for thieves and liars.

Go on show me an expose on the leader of the loonies that says he's a thief, a liar and a murderer.

Im voting for them aswell that makes them a step closer to power

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Withano

I don't know much about them tbh. I like their choice of hats. Are they cutting education fees too?

No idea but I imagine the Brexit hats will be inspired.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by jaxie

No idea but I imagine the Brexit hats will be inspired.

Topical meets high fashion

[Tom4784]

It's an excellent policy and the fact they have a deadline in place for it does more than suggest that it'll be a promise they will keep if elected.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by the truth

no doubt millions of young kids can enroll on labours breed for benefits programme...get 8 kids by 25 and you can get an 6 bedroom detached house all bills included and not a days work to get it...thanks to labour and santa corbyn...oh and the kids in turn learn you get all this for nothing, only fools and horses work

It just seems people want everything for free,instead of working and helping the rest of the country,I was so much easier under Labour to not look for work,it's harder now and it should be, that's why some people hate the Tories as they dont make laziness easy.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

It just seems people want everything for free,instead of working and helping the rest of the country,I was so much easier under Labour to not look for work,it's harder now and it should be, that's why some people hate the Tories as they dont make laziness easy.

You are aware Labour brought,wrongly,tuition fees in,in the first place.

So hardly all free at all under Labour.
It's good that tuition fees are going to be scrapped it's a policy that will always get my support.