[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Still a victim as he cheated on her.

Hmmm, but she would be as guilty as him, sleeping with someone else's boyfriend.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

I will wait till he admits in national TV until then it is hearsay

I'm sure Raph's first priority when he leaves will be to win you round

[Firewire]

People are really taking this seriously aren't they

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Cheats are the most hated type of housemate on here

Argumentative people are normally the most hated across the BB fandom, unless they've got something else going on to stop that from happening.

Cheats normally don't hit TIBB's radar as much as it's conveniently done here.

The only ones I understand having this reaction are people like Amy Jade who has been on the receiving end of this, otherwise it feels out of character to me with how this Forum usually feels.

[Mitchell]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Cheats are the most hated type of housemate on here

Weren't you stanning Jeremy and Steph?

[Locke.]

Originally Posted by T*

not really? If you were a viewer that didn't look at this forum then you'd be thinking 'is this the real him in the house? Or is it part of his gameplay because it's not what he said in his VT...'

Luckily for you you are on this forum and get some extra insight into how much Raph regrets it then. Sorted.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Drew.

Thats where the whole thing about people just waiting to take a dig at him comes into play, you're all ignoring the fact hes repeatedly said hes remorseful to us just so you can keep this up

He said he lies in his VT though.

Questioning the realness of him being 'remorseful' in the wake of that is what this forum is all about, why shouldn't we be allowed to discuss if his tears were real or his remorse was genuine or part of a game plan?

He put himself up for our judgement. He is a self proclaimed super fan and must have known he would be heavily talked about.

[T*]

Originally Posted by Locke.

Luckily for you you are on this forum and get some extra insight into how much Raph regrets it then. Sorted.

Why use it as a point in your VT if you regret it so much then...

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Hmmm, but she would be as guilty as him, sleeping with someone else's boyfriend.

Wha

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by T*

Why use it as a point in your VT if you regret it so much then...

To get in?

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Firewire

People are really taking this seriously aren't they

It's only a gameshow!

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Hmmm, but she would be as guilty as him, sleeping with someone else's boyfriend.

Nope not at all. He was the one with commitments.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Jason.

Not the "young" excuse being thrown around when polyamorous Jade was branded a slut when she was only a year older than Raph

Jade's alot more unlikable than Raph.

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

He said he lies in his VT though.

Questioning the realness of him being 'remorseful' in the wake of that is what this forum is all about, why shouldn't we be allowed to discuss if his tears were real or his remorse was genuine or part of a game plan?

He put himself up for our judgement. He is a self proclaimed super fan and must have known he would be heavily talked about.

Crack on tbh, we're just gonna go round in circles all series

[Locke.]

Originally Posted by T*

Why use it as a point in your VT if you regret it so much then...

Because he thought it would make his dream of getting on Big Brother more likely, and he was right

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Jade's alot more unlikable than Raph.

I don't think it works that way

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

This Forum doesn't normally care about this sort of stuff to this extent, even when other Housemates have done **** like this.

It's a classic case of building Raph up and then knocking him down.

Yes they do. In fact most recent series have bloody been built around it.

Jeremy and Steph as a big example. Let's not pretend we haven't had debates like this about 1000 housemates before.

[Mitchell]

I know of Raph from being on here, nowhere near as well as other members, in the past I've disagreed with a lot of his posts, in the past I've agreed with a lot of his posts, but the housemate I'm seeing on the show is someone who is a decent person, if we shouldn't judge Tom on tweets from a year ago I don't see why we should judge Raph on mistakes made years ago when he was a teenager?

I'm happy that he's got to be on the show and has been able to achieve his dream, good on him for putting himself on a platform to be judged by the public who quite frankly can be absolute *****

[T*]

Originally Posted by Jake.

To get in?

then don't get surprised when people are confused and wondering if he was using tears and remorse as a part of his gameplan?? we're listening to his words and how he portrays himself in the show?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Jason.

I don't think it works that way

Likability (rightly or wrongly) does play it's part on how severe the reaction will be on the same scenario.

And also Jade was changing relationships in the house where as Raph is Showmance free so far.

[Marsh.]

So basically "Raph does something not very nice or says something not very nice which causes a debate on the forum like most other housemates and we'll get 'I was with him in a caravan I know him better."

WHAT a fun on season. :/

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Jake.

I'm sure Raph's first priority when he leaves will be to win you round

this is why people feel they cant say anything negative about him

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by T*

then don't get surprised when people are confused and wondering if he was using tears and remorse as a part of his gameplan?? we're listening to his words and how he portrays himself in the show?

When have I claimed to have been surprised?

[Locke.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

this is why people feel they cant say anything negative about him

People clearly don't think that because it's all they've done all night

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yes they do. In fact most recent series have bloody been built around it.

Jeremy and Steph as a big example. Let's not pretend we haven't had debates like this about 1000 housemates before.

I remember people's reactions that series and Jeremy had almost nobody talking about him he was that dull, and Stephanie was hailed as some sort of bullied victim on here and was forgiven because of being bullied.