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Old 14-07-2017, 04:03 PM #26
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Raph's only loyalty is to himself.

Remember on BOTS with those unseen audition clips: Raph saying how manipulative he is etc and how he has this smiley face which wins people over (or words to that effect)

He's not actually friends with Chanelle. He is a BB expert and knows the best way is to latch onto the 'outsider' group and not be part of the 'in crowd'.

In a different BB, Chanelle could easily be part of an in crowd. Raph wouldn't have a special friendship with her then. We all have seen him complain when people (eg Lotan) have spoken crudely about sex, or used 'derogatory' terms.

Chanelle is worse than all of them for that! Yet she is Raph's 'BFF'??

Nah mate i aint buying it. Raph and Chanelle are using each other tactically in the same way, for the same reasons.
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Raph's only loyalty is to himself.

Remember on BOTS with those unseen audition clips: Raph saying how manipulative he is etc and how he has this smiley face which wins people over (or words to that effect)

He's not actually friends with Chanelle. He is a BB expert and knows the best way is to latch onto the 'outsider' group and not be part of the 'in crowd'.

In a different BB, Chanelle could easily be part of an in crowd. Raph wouldn't have a special friendship with her then. We all have seen him complain when people (eg Lotan) have spoken crudely about sex, or used 'derogatory' terms.

Chanelle is worse than all of them for that! Yet she is Raph's 'BFF'??

Nah mate i aint buying it. Raph and Chanelle are using each other tactically in the same way, for the same reasons.
Exactly..i would have supported him if it wasnt so drearily obvious!
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Raph's only loyalty is to himself.

Remember on BOTS with those unseen audition clips: Raph saying how manipulative he is etc and how he has this smiley face which wins people over (or words to that effect)


He's not actually friends with Chanelle. He is a BB expert and knows the best way is to latch onto the 'outsider' group and not be part of the 'in crowd'.

In a different BB, Chanelle could easily be part of an in crowd. Raph wouldn't have a special friendship with her then. We all have seen him complain when people (eg Lotan) have spoken crudely about sex, or used 'derogatory' terms.

Chanelle is worse than all of them for that! Yet she is Raph's 'BFF'??

Nah mate i aint buying it. Raph and Chanelle are using each other tactically in the same way, for the same reasons.
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What may be funny ......

If Chanelle got the heave last night, he may get the opportunity to put out Isabelle tonight ..... waiting for the forum meltdown
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Raph's only loyalty is to himself.

Remember on BOTS with those unseen audition clips: Raph saying how manipulative he is etc and how he has this smiley face which wins people over (or words to that effect)

He's not actually friends with Chanelle. He is a BB expert and knows the best way is to latch onto the 'outsider' group and not be part of the 'in crowd'.

In a different BB, Chanelle could easily be part of an in crowd. Raph wouldn't have a special friendship with her then. We all have seen him complain when people (eg Lotan) have spoken crudely about sex, or used 'derogatory' terms.

Chanelle is worse than all of them for that! Yet she is Raph's 'BFF'??

Nah mate i aint buying it. Raph and Chanelle are using each other tactically in the same way, for the same reasons.
Not only latch on...he basically created them. He was very clever going to the diary room like 3 days in and going on about the 'popular' clique and labelling his group the outsiders. As he knows that the outsiders were a very popular clique themselves and the 'populars' tend to not go down too well with the audience in any year. Very smart, and definitely thinking ahead. He then spent weeks enforcing the separate cliques by running between groups winding the sisters up...which also in turn took attention off himself as they were (Hannah especially) exploding and drawing it all onto themselves.

I don't believe this 'friends for life' thing that most of the forum believes about Chanelle and Raph. Not for a second.

I went through a phase where I thought he was just a bit of a drip, but now I do think its gameplaying. And honestly, I like him now that I see his manipulation clearly. I would ****ing love it if he voted for Chanelle tonight
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What may be funny ......

If Chanelle got the heave last night, he may get the opportunity to put out Isabelle tonight ..... waiting for the forum meltdown

Who is going to watch him roll his rollies then?
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Charlotte and Raph proved last night they are so similar to each other, I Love both of them, being smart and choosing weaker housemates than them
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OMG Emma spilling the tea that Isabelle got a tweet saying she could win and that's why he didn't pick her.
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Charlotte likes Andrew though.
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Love how they both spotted his fake tears
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Charlotte likes Andrew though.
of course she can't win and she wants him to win the 15k
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Imagine getting dragged by Emma
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By outed you mean gave her opinion on it or does she have some footage of him revealing a plan?
He's too snakey to reveal that it was part of a game plan.
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He's too snakey to reveal that it was part of a game plan.
of course part of the game, this is his character in the game
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I can't believe such a shocking moment in the show is rewarded by the fans of said show slagging off the contestant that provided it.

Tbh you all deserve a Smellie final 2.
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He didn't even show loyalty to Chanelle last night. Remember that Sue put Chanelle up for eviction.


Exactly...and Chanelle got Sue up for eviction. Raph playing his clever game and not saving Isabelle and Chanelle picking the one he saved...
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Charlotte and Raph proved last night they are so similar to each other, I Love both of them, being smart and choosing weaker housemates than them

Chanelles not that smart...she picked someone who can't win..
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Raph's only loyalty is to himself.

Remember on BOTS with those unseen audition clips: Raph saying how manipulative he is etc and how he has this smiley face which wins people over (or words to that effect)

He's not actually friends with Chanelle. He is a BB expert and knows the best way is to latch onto the 'outsider' group and not be part of the 'in crowd'.

In a different BB, Chanelle could easily be part of an in crowd. Raph wouldn't have a special friendship with her then. We all have seen him complain when people (eg Lotan) have spoken crudely about sex, or used 'derogatory' terms.

Chanelle is worse than all of them for that! Yet she is Raph's 'BFF'??




Nah mate i aint buying it. Raph and Chanelle are using each other tactically in the same way, for the same reasons.

You have hit the nail on the head...
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How on earth would he "know Isabelle is competition" when she's been booed every eviction and revealed to have been in the top 5 of a VTE with the whole house?

Edit: because of that tweet task? One tweet? Please
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How on earth would he "know Isabelle is competition" when she's been booed every eviction and revealed to have been in the top 5 of a VTE with the whole house?
That's true.
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I can't believe such a shocking moment in the show is rewarded by the fans of said show slagging off the contestant that provided it.

Tbh you all deserve a Smellie final 2.
Ahh mate.

I want these type of hms to stay in but i also want them to have as rough a ride as possible...i want a nasty nick moment.
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How on earth would he "know Isabelle is competition" when she's been booed every eviction and revealed to have been in the top 5 of a VTE with the whole house?

Edit: because of that tweet task? One tweet? Please
Not just the tweet. I'm sure he realises how Isy's selfless acts would go down with the viewers.
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Not just the tweet. I'm sure he realises how Isy's selfless acts would go down with the viewers.
That doesn't mean someone is favourite to win. Raph has no way of knowing this.
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Not just the tweet. I'm sure he realises how Isy's selfless acts would go down with the viewers.
The last time Isabelle was up for eviction she was heavily booed, why would one random fan tweet make him believe she is a favourite to win?

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How on earth would he "know Isabelle is competition" when she's been booed every eviction and revealed to have been in the top 5 of a VTE with the whole house?

Edit: because of that tweet task? One tweet? Please
Hes an avid fan, he knows the crowd are on their break from stacking the shelves at tesco. He also should know how much issy is loved by us from her actions in the house and the snippets of outside knowledge they get in tasks.
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