[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Livia

Yes... her confidence is quite unbelievable, especially with so many mirrors around. I have to say, and I don't mean this as an insult but as statement of fact... she has the bodyshape of a man.

Yes she has no denying that, looks quite butch at times.

[Babayaro.]

Transgender woman in still having male features shock

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by Babayaro.

Transgender woman in still having male features shock

Wow who knew

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by hijaxers

Yes i agree , where is her understanding of her son, getting yer tits out at every opportunity is hardly going to repair a fractured relationship - this is all about her getting airtime - god knows why but its certainly not about her son.

...what other 50 year old would do that? She entered the house a demure looking woman...shame she can't behave like a respectable 50 year old and more than anything consider the impact on her son....wearing gold skimpy bikinis and walking around naked...she is acting like a 24 year old diva...shame really.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

...what other 50 year old would do that? She entered the house a demure looking woman...shame she can't behave like a respectable 50 year old and more than anything consider the impact on her son....wearing gold skimpy bikinis and walking around naked...she is acting like a 24 year old diva...shame really.

But i think as people have said she still has male features like frame, hands and feet and to some extent a male mind and if she had a female mind she would be a little more demure?

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

...what other 50 year old would do that? She entered the house a demure looking woman...shame she can't behave like a respectable 50 year old and more than anything consider the impact on her son....wearing gold skimpy bikinis and walking around naked...she is acting like a 24 year old diva...shame really.

Yes exactly - her son must be totally cringing at her behaviour and i think she will live to regret it sadly. All that posing in the sauna was completely uncalled for, nevermind the vile bikini choice.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Smithy

So a gender reassignment surgeon is meant to provide cancer treatment are they? Because being a doctor or someone of the medical profession is all the same thing isn’t it?

All the money comes out of the same pot, so money wasted on Indias whim is taken from cancer patients

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

...what other 50 year old would do that? She entered the house a demure looking woman...shame she can't behave like a respectable 50 year old and more than anything consider the impact on her son....wearing gold skimpy bikinis and walking around naked...she is acting like a 24 year old diva...shame really.

She doesn't have the same life experiences as most 50 year old woman (as gets frequently pointed as a reason for her to not be considered a woman), so I'm not sure why she would be expected to fit a stereotypical behaviour of 50 year old women? Or why anyone should have to fit a stereotypical behaviour tbh

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

She doesn't have the same life experiences as most 50 year old woman (as gets frequently pointed as a reason for her to not be considered a woman), so I'm not sure why she would be expected to fit a stereotypical behaviour of 50 year old women? Or why anyone should have to fit a stereotypical behaviour tbh

How do you know that ? she has had the same life experience of most 50 yr olds ,according to her and some folk on here she KNEW age 3 (Yes folks age THREE) she was a girl, so all her life until the op (paid for by the taxpayer) she should have thought and acted as a female if she didn't then she's a liar

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

How do you know that ? she has had the same life experience of most 50 yr olds ,according to her and some folk on here she KNEW age 3 (Yes folks age THREE) she was a girl, so all her life until the op (paid for by the taxpayer) she should have thought and acted as a female if she didn't then she's a liar

Life experience includes how people treat you and not just how you feel. And women and men get treated very differently by society.

It's quite common for people who transition at an older age to experience a sort of 'rebirth' and make up for a lost youth in way, although that's a generalisation, but I can sort of see that in India a bit.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

But i think as people have said she still has male features like frame, hands and feet and to some extent a male mind and if she had a female mind she would be a little more demure?

Because all women are demure?

Have been so many women on BB over the years who are older and still exhibitionists. Denise Welch is probably the first that springs to mind tbh

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

Life experience includes how people treat you and not just how you feel. And women and men get treated very differently by society.

It's quite common for people who transition at an older age to experience a sort of 'rebirth' and make up for a lost youth in way, although that's a generalisation, but I can sort of see that in India a bit.

Naah spare it love, I'm not interested in India or her "transition" Ive had it up to my back teeth

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Naah spare it love, I'm not interested in India or her "transition" Ive had it up to my back teeth

Ok well you did ask

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Because all women are demure?

Have been so many women on BB over the years who are older and still exhibitionists. Denise Welch is probably the first that springs to mind tbh

But Denise had a sense of humour so could get away with it.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

She doesn't have the same life experiences as most 50 year old woman (as gets frequently pointed as a reason for her to not be considered a woman), so I'm not sure why she would be expected to fit a stereotypical behaviour of 50 year old women? Or why anyone should have to fit a stereotypical behaviour tbh

she doesn't need any life experience to know how to behave. She isn't a stupid person....but she won't gain any public respect if she carries on behaving like a chav....and she's not making anything easier for her son.

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Naah spare it love, I'm not interested in India or her "transition" Ive had it up to my back teeth

Take them out then

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

Life experience includes how people treat you and not just how you feel. And women and men get treated very differently by society.

It's quite common for people who transition at an older age to experience a sort of 'rebirth' and make up for a lost youth in way, although that's a generalisation, but I can sort of see that in India a bit.

That's fine...but maybe don't do it on NTV when your son in his teens is struggling to deal with it....just be a bit gracious and make him proud instead of making him open to ridicule.
It's selfish behaviour...

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Yes she has no denying that, looks quite butch at times.

Has she had any facial surgery? Cause i can see why anne and everyone are getting it wrong.

Dunno wether i should roll about laughing or dislocate my bottim jaw.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Yes,I was shocked I would have thought that would be a private op.

Boob Job's are also on the NHS especially when they go wrong and have to have the implants removed .

NHS is being used for cosmetic purposes rather than serious health conditions. Boob jobs including botch jobs and Gender reassignments should all be on Private health service .

It's truly baffling and crazy how people with life threatening diseases and illnesses are having to either PAY or raise ridiculous amount of money for the medicines /drugs they need !!! it's unfair and wrong .

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I think you are doing Ann a great disservice saying that hog. She wanted children but never had them. She has worked as a woman in a very male dominant world probably early on against a great deal of struggle and prejudice.

Are you implying that only people who choose to change gender feel trauma?

Kind of hard to see this when Ann herself said she's never faced any prejudice as a woman in her political career.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The problem is we only have her word for it that she wants to be a woman as there is no scientific way we can prove this, like say a worn hip joint. So its very based on trust rather than medical evidence.

Unless I have that wrong, which is possible?

Also now if you want the snip you may now not get it (saw this on that doc prog this week) until you try all other means of contraception! So you cant get the snip but you can get the chop !

Just her word? The fact that she's had the procedures at all aren't a big ****ing clue?

Why else would anybody go through the trauma of that kind of procedure?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Rob!

Take them out then

fffffff

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Just her word? The fact that she's had the procedures at all aren't a big ****ing clue?

Why else would anybody go through the trauma of that kind of procedure?

India said the pro proceedure itself wasn't a trauma and has had worse at the dentist.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by jaxie

India said the pro proceedure itself wasn't a trauma and has had worse at the dentist.

I know she said it , but i honestly find that extremely difficult to believe . Even with a high pain threshold a huge operation like that is going impact you surely ? .

[thesheriff443]

Kamal was washing in dustbin in 2005, its big brother not news night.

Did anyone see the pictures over Christmas of girls on nights out, magic mirrors are what most are using.