[Daniel-X]

This years series is just really missing a spark I think, idk why but it doesn’t feel like a CBB (or at least a C5 one anyway) and I can’t get into it? Nobody has struck me as being an ‘amazing’ housemate and there’s no interesting storylines. It’s weird cos it’s a really great cast but it’s just missing something to make it tick for me. Anyone agree?

[supertv247]

It needs a Sarah, a Kim, a Tiffany, a Gemma, a Speidi, a Luisa or a Perez. It doesn’t have a standout memorable housemate

[waterhog]

disagree with the queen - you watch this series take off now. we can focus on something that is not india ?

[RichardG]

it needs some messy american reality girls

[Daniel-X]

Originally Posted by supertv247

It needs a Sarah, a Kim, a Tiffany, a Gemma, a Speidi, a Luisa or a Perez. It doesn’t have a standout memorable housemate

I was saying this a few days ago actually to another FM. There’s nobody who is standing out and making the storylines.

[Oaker]

It's serving CBB11 without Speidi

[lewis111]

It's so weird cause on paper it seems like they've done everything right
Made it more of a social experiment
More diversity in HM ages and less typical reality stars
Better editing

But it feels more summer CBB than winter CBB, it needs a big storyline or a house divide to liven up

[Daniel-X]

It feels like a C4 CBB to me. I don’t mind them going a bit more high brow and simplistic compared to the messes they’ve done of some series but they need an antagonist. CBB3 had Jackie/John, CBB4 had Pete, CBB5 had the trio and CBB6 had Coolio.

[Jodie.]

Yas it needs an iconic moment

I love how old school it is and I realise BB isn’t all about arguments but I just feel like we need a few arguments soon, a series will only conversations, even if it’s intellectual and interesting etc will become boring for me

[ethanjames]

I think this is the point which can make or break it as india which originally made this series interesting has left and it can only go up (more airtime for other people) or down. india was the antagonist and now they have lost her so I think the appeal may have gone

[Oaker]

CBB7 is a pretty good comparison actually

[thisisdanny]

Originally Posted by Daniel-X

It feels like a C4 CBB to me. I don’t mind them going a bit more high brow and simplistic compared to the messes they’ve done of some series but they need an antagonist. CBB3 had Jackie/John, CBB4 had Pete, CBB5 had the trio and CBB6 had Coolio.

Not this series becoming CBB7

[Daniel-X]

Ashley will save it

[RileyH]

Originally Posted by Daniel-X

Ashley will save it

a fact!

[thisisdanny]

Originally Posted by Daniel-X

Ashley will save it

Nicky is that you

[lewis111]

I do think Ann is somewhat of a antagonist in a similar (less iconic) way to Kim but she has nothing to react to or no one to start anything with her cause they're all too nice

[Daniel-X]

Originally Posted by lewis111

I do think Ann is somewhat of a antagonist in a similar (less iconic) way to Kim but she has nothing to react to or no one to start anything with her cause they're all too nice

This is what’s annoying, I think Ann has potential to become a great HM and the antagonist of the series but there’s nobody for her to go against really without her looking like a bully.

[pontyboi]

I'm enjoying watching a fun show and I never thought those words would come out my mouth!

Maybe if channel 5 hadn't knocked out 14 CBB's in the last 7 years...think how crazy that is....Fourteen CBB's for crying out load!....then perhaps I would miss the drama of previous years but I don't because it would be the same old **** all over again.

[pontyboi]

Originally Posted by lewis111

It's so weird cause on paper it seems like they've done everything right
Made it more of a social experiment
More diversity in HM ages and less typical reality stars
Better editing

But it feels more summer CBB than winter CBB, it needs a big storyline or a house divide to liven up

But there is a divide it's men vs women which tbh got stale after week one.

This cast doesn't need any twists infact they won't react to them as we've seen they just need to be left to their own devices and they will eventually get cabin fever.

[thisisdanny]

Jess was annoyed when Andrew interrupted her in tonight's episode. I know it's only little but it'll start to build up. There's still potential for arguments I think, don't write off this series yet.

[thisisdanny]

Bad comparison I know but look at BB18 when Chanelle was evicted a week before the final. I know we still had legendary housemates in there but regardless, everyone thought the final week would be boring with no potential for drama. It turned out to be the best final week there has been imo.

Granted Chanelle did return in a task but never mind oops

[Epic.]

Originally Posted by lewis111

I do think Ann is somewhat of a antagonist in a similar (less iconic) way to Kim but she has nothing to react to or no one to start anything with her cause they're all too nice

I still fail to see what Ann and Kim remotely have in common apart from being outspoken elderly women and if anything they're polar opposites at that.

[lewis111]

Originally Posted by Epic.

I still fail to see what Ann and Kim remotely have in common apart from being outspoken elderly women and if anything they're polar opposites at that.

They both seem completley over everything and take no **** from anyone - they both also seem to be fairly outcast early on during the time in their house and are both fairly feisty women who stand up for what they think
How are they polar opposites?

[Epic.]

Originally Posted by lewis111

They both seem completley over everything and take no **** from anyone - they both also seem to be fairly outcast early on during the time in their house and are both fairly feisty women who stand up for what they think
How are they polar opposites?

Kim is very charismatic and quick to persecute and vindicate others as being horrible gang-handed cretins. Ann is just some moody fed up woman and it's not like she's not really a big character either. It's the difference between hearing someone call a room of people chinless wonders, and someone who just gives eyerolls and somewhat challenging sentences. Ann is also way more diplomatic and restrained compared to Kim who thankfully wasn't. The 'outcast' thing I don't see at all because it's not like Ann is exactly looked down upon by her housemate, and she's only feisty when part of some sort of debate on something. Kim was completely an outcast based on taking on insider people who were far from as unpopular in the house as she was, and she challenged everything for that to happen. With Ann it's just that she chooses sometimes not to include in things because she's not really carefree or a big personality, unlike Kim who really was.

[poppsywoppsy]

It is BB who needs to stir things up

Where is the playing of personal remarks or guess who said this about who?

Where is the outing of their secrets?

Dapper has said horrendous things as has his little band of followers, let the house hear them.

It is all too homogenous and pally pally.