[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

i love animals but in reality me not eating meat isn’t going to stop them being slaughtered

like by becoming vegetarian i’m not helping those animals so i just don’t see the point

bur i would be here for new laws to come in that protect animals/outlaw farming etc (i’m being serious btw)

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Sullen Girl

outlaw farming

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Vegans dont care about plants though

Plants aren’t sentient though? Some plants literally rely on their fruits being eaten in order to spread their seeds.

[Jessica.]

It's been a week now and I already want to go vegan. I just saw some more clips from the Earthlings documentary and it's so painful to watch.

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

It's been a week now and I already want to go vegan. I just saw some more clips from the Earthlings documentary and it's so painful to watch.

Yeah earthlings is carnage. You should watch forks over knives and cowspiracy; the first touches on the health benefits of a vegan diet and the latter on the effects of animal agriculture on the environment. I great place for vegan meal ideas is youtube, theres this Asian-American lady who I use to watch who did the best mukbangs. So annoying but I forgot her name.

[thesheriff443]

At the canibal restaurant, can we have the vegetarian special please.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Nobody said natural because it's the "normal" way. But because that's how nature works.

Man didn't start cooking meat so it no longer resembled a living animal. It serves many purposes including preventing disease.

That's what I meant about it being 'unsafe' My point was that having to alter it from it's natural state for whatever reason seems... unnatural, that we're not naturally inclined to eat it.

Although I'm sort of back on the fence now about the whole nature thing anyway after reading this https://veganbiologist.com/2016/01/0...ot-herbivores/

(there's an alien analogy so you might want to avoid it Marsh )

It's not that relevant anyway really as most people will decide based on morals/preferences etc but it's interesting to think about the whole nature thing, it's not something I've ever really thought about before.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

Plants aren’t sentient though? Some plants literally rely on their fruits being eaten in order to spread their seeds.

Me

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

At the canibal restaurant, can we have the vegetarian special please.

[Jessica.]

I can't believe how easy it's been, it's been almost two weeks now and I thought I'd be dying after this long but it has literally been so easy and way cheaper than eating meat. I feel so much healthier too, I haven't been bloated or anything like that, which used to happen to me all the time. I can't get over how cheap it's been.

[y.winter]

Oh yes, absolutely. One of the most ridiculous assumptions when it comes to plant-based diet, is that it's expensive. Another excuse people tell themselves to avoid going veg, same as with the "unhealthy" argument.

Glad to see that you're finding it easy

I'd recommend to anyone interested, look for Challenge 22+, it's something that started in my country and spread worldwide. I personally didn't do it, but I always hear it's very helpful for those who don't know where to begin.

[Cal.]

The 'you're not helping animals so no point' argument is ridiculous. If every vegan and vegetarian still ate meat it's pretty obvious more animals would be being bred to suffer and be slaughtered than there currently is right now. That number of animals will only decrease as the number of vegetarians and vegans rises.

[Jessica.]

I know right.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cal.

It's surprisingly easy and the food is yummy. I'm an ex vegetarian

lol

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cal.

The 'you're not helping animals so no point' argument is ridiculous. If every vegan and vegetarian still ate meat it's pretty obvious more animals would be being bred to suffer and be slaughtered than there currently is right now. That number of animals will only decrease as the number of vegetarians and vegans rises.

You greatly overestimate the number of vegetarians and vegans.

Vegetarians especially are still consuming innumerable products that use animal produce so their "mark" is barely even felt.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

That's what I meant about it being 'unsafe' My point was that having to alter it from it's natural state for whatever reason seems... unnatural, that we're not naturally inclined to eat it.

Although I'm sort of back on the fence now about the whole nature thing anyway after reading this https://veganbiologist.com/2016/01/0...ot-herbivores/

(there's an alien analogy so you might want to avoid it Marsh )

It's not that relevant anyway really as most people will decide based on morals/preferences etc but it's interesting to think about the whole nature thing, it's not something I've ever really thought about before.

So explain the many cooked vegetarian meals which alter the ingredients from their original state.

That reasoning is ridiculous.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

So explain the many cooked vegetarian meals which alter the ingredients from their original state.

That reasoning is ridiculous.

Nobody is going to get e coli or salmonella if they haven't cooked their carrot though.

[Jessica.]

[Ammi]

..well done Jess.....I’ve been a non meat eater for many years but vegetarianism is something I’m also considering atm myself...

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

Nobody is going to get e coli or salmonella if they haven't cooked their carrot though.

No. No poisons or diseases ever came from a fruit or a vegetable.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..well done Jess.....I’ve been a non meat eater for many years but vegetarianism is something I’m also considering atm myself...

Thank you Ammi! I love animals so much, I just couldn't go on eating them.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I fixed it.

[Jessica.]

It's two weeks today!

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

It's two weeks today!