[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Sticks

parmnion asked a question, forgetting that men also wear trousers, so the problem raised also applies to men. I provided an answer to her question. In summer, some men, notably postmen where short trousers.

I have also observed that some women also wear short trousers.

If we lived in an idealised utopian paradise where all men respected women and did not do such uncouth and despicable acts, then there would be no problems. Unfortunately we live in the real world, and some men are thoroughly reprobate and pariahs.

Given that is it not prudent to take precautions?

Here is a question for our female members here, do you go out at night after dark, as is your right to? Do you take precautions like keeping to well lit public areas, not going out alone, taking some defensive weapon like pepper spray or an assault alarm? How many of you have done some form of self defence class or training?

In the idealised utopian paradise, you should not need to, but we live in the real world so many do take such precautions and possibly others that I have missed off the list.

Some of the precautions I have listed are possibly some that might be given out by a crime prevention officer, giving advice, so what is the difference in giving advice on how to avoid being upskirted in the absence of any legislation?

we can stand up for ourselves, and we can wear whatever we want, i don't want anyone else telling me what to do