[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Tribalism isn't a good look, this is why I'd never join a party, you lose perspective and it becomes 'us vs them'.

Labour is a mess at the moment, if MPs want to leave to form a group that's balanced then go for it, it won't work but I'd support the effort.

First Past the Post
never makes it easy for New Party's

UKIP did well with 2 MP's, back then,
that were Hissed at
as they sat down in Parliament,
Back then before David Cameron
rushed to call the in and out referendum



As 2 more Conservative MP's
were getting ready to jump over to UKIP



So David saved his Party
thinking he could win it
Dragging in the then USA President
made his case worse