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Old 14-03-2022, 04:11 PM #10
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I think there's a hair trigger tipping point on this issue because it's fought so intensely and that's where issues start to creep in, with people asking genuine questions being branded hateful, but also people with genuine gender dysphoria being branded disingenuous... It's an incredibly complex and nuanced topic even before you bring in the concept of gender non-binary (full disclosure; I firmly believe that gender non-binary describes 99.9% of the population and is thus almost entirely meaningless as a descriptor of identity, but that's another debate).

But yes I've seen a lot of people drawn from sincere, through frustrated, and into mocking, which is never great and also doesn't solve anything (it just cements views in place because defensiveness comes into it and people start defending illogical things that they don't even believe).

There are also "elephant in the room" issues such as unintended effect... For example the simple fact that a lot of trans and general gendered thinking (i.e. the behaviours and presentations that make a trans women "like a woman") very often veer into being offensive to women, and encompass offensive stereotypes. People need to be able to speak up about things like that without it being branded transphobic. The very statement that "I know I'm actually [insert category of people] because I'm X, Y, Z and those are traits of [that category of people]" is inherently offensive. That is always going to be a major sticking point.
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