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Originally Posted by Swan

You can make all the distinctions you like between men and trans women, but no matter how you feel, every single trans women ever, then, now, and in future generations start out as a man/men. I just find it completely odd how you say "well, it's men who are to blame, not trans women", biologically they're the exact same thing.

Be free, live your life, don't get me wrong, but you're looking at this whole situation from a black and white standpoint. It is a very complex situation, but at times it really isn't.

It’s quite bold to say “you’re looking at it from a black and white POV” while simultaneously refusing to recognise the nuanced and real distinction between a trans women and a cis men.

People are more than their genitals and reproductive systems. The reason trans people exist is because their mental identity doesn’t match their physical identity, therein lies the key difference between a trans women and a cis man. Just because you might be happy to disregard that as valid, it doesn’t make it so.

I do wonder is those celebrating realise that the next time a cis women goes into a woman’s only space, and is reported because someone thinks she’s trans, it will be a male police officer who strip searches her to check, unless she carries her birth certificate with her everywhere she goes. Horrific.