[Tom]

Originally posted by Markymark

Even if he did exist I don't see what that proves. It's humans that have invented the fact that he was the son of God. It's more than likely he was some Mother Theresa type person than someone who could perform actual miracles.

We've all done Chinese whispers in a classroom with 25 other people. Now imagine 2000 years worth of Chinese whispers and you get the Bible. Explain how there are fossils of simple life-forms that are hundreds of millions of years old.

I'm not denying that, as I said I'm on the fence but I am a bit religious so I'm split between the two options. I do think the creation story is a load of rubbish though.

Originally posted by horcrux92
I think Jesus did exist, and maybe somebody saw him do something which seemed like a miracle, but in reality was just misunderstood or not understood fully by the person who witnessed it happen. But in my opinion, there's no God. The fact that the Big bang created the universe completely contradicts that God created the Earth. So I don't believe in God.

Jesus did exist, its been proven. A lot of philosophers who are religious also believe the Big Bang theory but think that God played a role in making sure everything was set up right. You can't make something from nothing, so how did the Big Bang occur in the first place to create the universe? However using quantum physics is completely possible that something can come from nothing but in extremely rare circumstances, and even then its something of a very small scale such as three particles. So something pretty spectacular must have happened to create the entire universe, its either a really big coincidence where everything just happened to be right with a very very very tiny probability of it happening, or there is something there.

But I agree with bbE. I think we need to change our concept of God. I don't think of God as some massive man who sits in the sky looking down on everything and everyone, I just think its something thats there. Not a person or anything like that, just something.