[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

30STONE, IF YOU CANNOT NAME AN INSTANCE AND THEN BACK IT UP THEN HOW ARE YOU MAKING THE ASSUMPTIONS IN THE FIRST PLACE,sorry for the capitals, but I thought it may help get the message across, are you saying you cannot bring to mind anything he has said that you can back up at all with undisputable facts that were wrong,if that is the case then what on earth are you saying anything as to his integrity at all for then.I repeat, I DONT NEED TO, I ahve said thta all he says about others,and yes, he says a loy about them all, is true, he only says what he sees and hears hinslef, he makes no assumptions of what others may say about someone, he simply states his view, what he has seen and what he has heard and all of it is true, all the programming is testament to that.Since you made the comment he did otherwise then you need to prove that is so, if you cannot, and you dont even have an ainstance to recall easlily from past or recent memory then for goodness sake how can your argument have any creedence whatsoever.
Facts are facts,I state that I know from all the programming I ahve seen, whether live feed, E4 or Channel 4 highlights that he has never done that, he says a lot about people but its all true that he says.whether its nice or not is immaterial as long as its true,now you, from that same source I and everyone else has cannot legitimately name a single instance, I think in anyones book, that m
makes me right and you at the very least dubious in your criticism og Ben with no examples. I actually find it sad that people attack someone who only tells the truth, even though they may not like what he says, but, that doesn't negate his integrity,far from it. It does however show greatly unjustified and downright wrong is the criticism as to his honesty by people who just dont care for Ben throw at him with no substance to their argument or criticism at all.

Great post Joey and you will find people are fond enough of posting that Ben is 'bitching' but can never back it up,I'm sure they think if they keep repeating the same old thing it will become fact,the instances i've seen of him talking is when someone has had a go at him or he is making observations about house mates,the only one i heard him say anything derogotary about was mario,and imo mario thoughoughly deserves it ,some of the things he has said about Ben have been disgusting,but you are wasting your time I doubt many can be bothered to read facts.