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Originally Posted by joeysteele

I don't think anyone on here is in that position so presumably you are yelling at the people not connected to the forum.

No one believes anyone is entitled to benefits if they are not warranted and have no reason to be on them.
We do have 2.5 million unemployed in the UK and at best 500,000 approx vacancies.
Now I am not a brilliant mathematician by any means but you cannot fully employ 2.5 million people in half a million vacancies.

Furthermore, a great number of people now on benefits have worked for many decades and ill health has forced then to stop working.
It is not as simple as black and white, there are many grey areas as to benefits.

A decent society should have the duty to provide for it's weakest and poorest.The most vulnerable getting the greater help obviously.
This Govt is attacking and taking from the most vulnerable and many of the people left with a pittance to live on are infact working anyway but still in the bracket where they are entitled to benefits.

Having some pompous arrogant politician like IDS telling the poorest that he could live on £53 a week when he knows the luxury he can go back to after it is not only patronising it is downright insulting.

The vast majority of people try to and would take a job if it was offered to them, the fact is as I said at the start, full time jobs are rather rare, part time jobs leave people still on some benefits and I repeat, you cannot give 2.5 million people jobs with only half a million vacancies.

Scroungers is too general a term and the vast majority of people who now find themselves on benefits are far from being scroungers anyway.
It is time this Govt stopped demonising them and started on the people who are rich and powerful enough to find ways of not paying what would be due income tax.

I come from a privileged background, I know how lucky I am but I have gone out to learn what it is like for people on benefits and I have yet to really meet what could be termed a genuine scrounger.

OK I agree my post was a little knee jerk , and everyone has their own story and their own problems. Perhaps there is no real dole scrounger perhaps it is just a stereotype , but our welfare system is too complicated and needs reforming. The money must go to the people who need it the most not just given week in week out for years to someone who is then pursuaded not to pursue paid employment as they would lose their benefits.

They are not their benefits this money comes from you and I the ones who work and pay taxes.

Not sure what the answer is but the status quo is cannot be maintained indefinitely.....!!!!