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Old 13-11-2014, 10:59 PM #30
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That's the sad irony of this whole affair is that the best leader is not necessarily the best looking most eloquent or most charismatic. But they are the ones that get voted in, it's the way of politics now where the voter is voting for the leader not the party so only the personal qualities of the leader are judged above the policies of the party.

It's totally wrong I know but it happens every time. Look at Tony Benn and Michael Foot both would have made great leaders but they never got the chance.

I hope Mr Miliband survives and wins the election but honestly can't see it as once the hounds attack the sniping gets louder and louder until a labour front bencher breaks ranks and openly criticises the leader forcing him to hold a vote of confidence and by then I'm afraid it's pretty much game over for Mr Miliband.

I think if he survives to Christmas then he will be OK, but I suspect there are further pitfalls and bear traps lying in wait for him. It could be a long 7 weeks.




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Exactly Nedusa, Tony Benn,had he been a Labour leader and then PM,would have changed the UK completely.
Although had I been born in his time,I would not then have agreed with his policies,I admit that.
However I respect and love the way he too, despite all the personal attacks fired at him by the press and the Conservative party,how he stood firm and carried on regardless.

He was branded the most dangerous man in politics and a loony left madman by the Conservatives for advocating in the 80s and early 90s that we should leave the EU,what does that now make this lot in power now then.

I agree with you, I hope Labour win the election but I also agree with you that it now looks more likely they will be the largest party rather than a govt. with an overall majority.
Divided parties do struggle in elections so this nonsense around Ed Miliband going, has to be well and truly halted and dealt with,then the main issues can be hopefully got across.
Having said that, I am sure this is the going to be the most dirty,nasty and rotten election campaign form the Conservatives and their 'press' friends,especially the sickening Daily Mail and the paper that,in my view, should never have been allowed to continue in existence,The Sun.

I mean, yesterday even Nigel Farage said he could work with Labour,I guess he meant if they agreed a referendum on the EU that he would not have his party bring down a Labour govt in that scenario.

I am not that worried as to Scotland, if Labour lost half its seats there, they will all go to the SNP, no way will the SNP support a Conservative led govt.
So in reality,although not desired, the next house of commons could look really strange as to its makeup.

There will be,in another hung parliament a likely massive anti Conservative vote from just about all the other parties,except for the DUP in Northern Ireland.
It could yet be that at last we get a govt. that reflects the views in part of just about all the parties of the UK,which oddly enough may also just be one the best govts. the UK has had.
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