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Originally Posted by Livia

Oh I think this thread would definitely exist if it had been a dodgy Conservative donation. You've only got to read some of the outrageous statements on this forum from people who are anti-Tory, they'd have been all over this with the usual, predictable histrionics. To then claim that Miliband isn't responsible is laughable. Miliband is responsible. He is the leader of the party, the buck stops with him. The buck stops with all the leaders to be responsible for what happens in their party.

That bit I agree with.
I would never ever make a thread condemning any party leader on this issue, also I really believe that party leaders often haven't a clue what is actually going on as to their party a lot of the time anyway.

There is to be fair also some very nasty indeed anti Labour and particularly personally directed attacks on here as to Ed Miliband.
I never judge anyone on appearance, I doubt looking back Sir Alec Douglas Home, Harold MacMillan or even Clement Attlee would have seemed greatly photogenic as to appearance.
All were dedicated politicians and really good leaders however,I would say from all I have read as to them and seen on old newsreel etc;

I dislike intensely David Cameron for what he has done with power, not for how he looks, talks and eats.
I dislike the politician, not the man.